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Subtlety So Beautiful
MDMA & Cannabis
by GreyFox
Citation:   GreyFox. "Subtlety So Beautiful: An Experience with MDMA & Cannabis (exp98720)". Dec 23, 2020.

T+ 0:00
100 - 150 mg oral MDMA (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:15   smoked Cannabis  
  T+ 0:00   repeated smoked Tobacco  
  T+ 0:00   repeated smoked Cannabis  


100-150mg (approx)

Experiences: Cannabis, Vicodin, Oxycodone, Salvia, Psyilocybe Cubensis, LSD, DMT, all yielding +++ experiences on the Shulgin scale.

Time of ingestion: 8:45pm

Smoked a bowl of Cannabis. I think it was a hybrid. Strain was called 'Master and Commmander' Delicious.

Still at baseline. I've eaten recently, a fairly carb heavy meal. Possibly experiencing a light head change, but I am currently smoking hookah (tobacco), and have ingested cannabis recently. I am anticipating a slightly later come up due to the large meal. I'm a little nervous about my dosage. My scales aren't terribly accurate
I'm a little nervous about my dosage. My scales aren't terribly accurate
, and this is my first experience. I purposely shot for a little over 100mg (using PiHKAL as a reference; Shulgin's best experience that he documented was at 125mg), which from all accounts I have read, should be a rewarding experience in any case. Possible placebo effect but my computer screen looks fucking BRIGHT to me. Beginning to feel much more calm that I was. This is of note as I am prone to anxiety attacks, mostly due to overanalysis of situations. Strange sensations in my face/mouth area. Subtle so far, but I am VERY excited for this to get going.

Still where I was before, just moreso. I feel like this is going somewhere, but I don't know where. This seems typical though of the quintessential first MDMA experience. I am experiencing a shift in perception and consciousness but it is extremely difficult to pin down. My motor function doesn't seem to be overly impaired. Typing seems to be maybe a little more difficult, but it's cold, and I have tenosynovitis in my arms, so typing is naturally some what difficult. I am slowly smoking another small bowl of cannabis through my water pipe, in hopes to bring out the colors of the MDMA. I have not left my upstairs area since ingestion, but will go downstairs briefly, hoping a change of environment will also speed things along. I am quickly approaching the 1 hour mark, and having refreshed myself on the negatives and positives of MDMA usage, decide that a good stretch is in order. Stretching feels GREAT.

Really getting a headbuzz at this point. Feel energized and social, which is very out of the ordinary. This social feeling is coupled with a very relaxed mental state, despite being energized. My girlfriend, we'll call her 'L' is feeling similar things, she feels very productive, but is having difficulty with tasks such as writing. I am beginning to find linear thinking to be much more difficult. My dosage was slightly higher than hers.

Peak/Plateau T+1:30-6:00
I now fully understand what my more experienced friend had told me about the subtlety of this particular chemical. It started with a mild happiness, something that felt very natural, and wholesome, I was very chatty online, and even messaged people just to say hello, and wish them a Merry Christmas. Again, this is fairly out of character to me. My partner and I smoked a bowl of cannabis and then a bowl of hookah tobacco.

Conversation began to flow very naturally. Our topics covered all aspects of our childhoods, our society, our relationship, spirituality and so much more. It all flowed very easily. We talked for somewhere between 5 and 7 hours, I'm honestly not sure. It is hard to even tell that it's taking effect until you realize you're talking more openly than you ever have, about things you might never have talked about. I experienced strong feelings of empathy and acceptance towards others. The things we talked about may have caused a dispute between us, but under the influence of MDMA, we were able to openly communicate about issues that we may have never explored, and I truly believe our relationship is already better from the experience. I did not experience the tactile enhancement that many of my friends have referred to, though my vision was definitely effected, in a subtle way. I'm unsure of the accuracy of my scales because of this. I think our doses were closer to 100mg. Next time, I will dose slightly higher. I am also very interested in 'candyflipping' or 'Trolling', ie, mixing MDMA with LSD.

Come down: T+8:00-9:00
The come down was slow, we made love during the end of it all, after talking. It was incredible. I knew I had come down fairly well because I was able to climax. Once I was asleep I was out. I only got 3 hours of sleep, but I felt great the next day. No apparent hangover, other than being sore from sitting in one position longer than I had realized as I was in the depths of conversation.

Not at all what I anticipated. The therapeutic value of this dose is UNDENIABLE. My anxieties diminished, and my view of the world was more clear, and not jaded by the negative, calloused filter that the modern, adult world has put over my eyes. I am very excited to take a higher dose for recreational purposes, but I am amazed at what I experienced, despite its subtlety. It is something that if I weren't paying attention to, and didn't allow it to take hold of me and take me somewhere, my experience may not be as great. It's a wonderful, potentially life changing or saving chemical with high therapeutic and recreational potential.

Exp Year: 2012ExpID: 98720
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 24 
Published: Dec 23, 2020Views: 886
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