Ambiguously Uncomfortably High
Kratom & Cannabis
Citation:   TryptamineTyrant. "Ambiguously Uncomfortably High: An Experience with Kratom & Cannabis (exp97519)". Sep 9, 2018.

1 leaf oral Kratom (leaves)
  1 leaf oral Kratom (leaves)
    glasses smoked Cannabis (plant material)
  1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine (liquid)
    glasses smoked Cannabis (plant material)
[Erowid Note: Some authors report suspicions that their cannabis has been 'laced' (adulterated), in some cases, presumably with PCP. While this is possible, readers should be aware that idiosyncratic response to the effects of cannabis (usually higher doses) can lead some users to presume their cannabis has been 'laced'. There is no way to know if the cannabis in the report below was adulterated or not. Reports of plant material and cannabis laced with powerful synthetic cannabinoids and other psychoactive substances became more common starting in 2007.]
Before I dive into the meat of this experience, I should note a few things. I'm 16 years old, going on 17 soon, and I live next to the ghetto. I live a comfortable middle class life, but I'm surrounded by poverty and drug use. This is likely a factor in leading me to become who I am today : a drug nerd. My main interests are natural substances and psychedelics, though I've dabbled in other fields. Substances I have experience with include LSD, DXM, Salvia, Adderall, Concerta, enough
edible Cannabis to experience a very subtle trip, and enough Alcohol to cuss out my friends' mother three times.

Now, on with the experience.

-A New Arrival-
Having researched into Kratom, I decided to order a plant for myself and add it to my botanical collection of psychoactive substances. It arrived with three leaves already developed.

More than ecstatic about trying it, I decided to tear off the smallest leaf [.30 grams] and chew it as a quid, not bothering to take anything else to kill the bitter taste. Indeed, it was unpleasant, but I didn't mind too much. After the leaf became a gooey, unchewable green ball, I spat it out and waited for it to kick in while I jammed out to Sublime on my computer.

I started to feel the effects fairly quickly, which was a euphoric, 'stony' feeling. Energy seemed to course through my body as I instantly became both stimulated and sedated. I could have taken a nap or ran a mile. I had severely underestimated the power of Kratom, thinking one leaf would barley have an effect. I think the potency was a combination of the particular strain I ordered, my lack of a tolerance, and the straight-from-the-plant freshness of the leaf.

My friend [who we'll call Dwarf, due to his shortness] called around this point, saying he wanted to hang out and buy some weed. I told him that was a-okay with me and to meet me outside of my house. I then grabbed another Kratom leaf, probably about .50-.60 grams, and brought it with me.

-Chewing Through The Ghetto-
Upon him arriving, I explained that the Kratom plant I had previously told him about had arrived and that I wanted him to try it, also explaining that I already felt great from chewing a small leaf. He hesitantly agreed. We then walked to the ghetto together, chewing up our leaves along the way.

Dwarf wanted to hit up a corner store and buy a drink. I spat out my leaf before we entered, having chewed it for five minutes or so. Dwarf's drink seemed to be expired and disgusting, so he simply discarded it rather than bother returning it, considering it was only a dollar. He continued to chew his leaf, thinking he had to keep it in his mouth a long time to get all the juice.

We walked around some streets that are well-known for having dealers filling them at all times of day. We got offered coke, which was a first, but we politely turned the guy down. We continued walking, eventually finding somebody selling $5 bags. Dwarf quickly exchanged his cash for the bag and we walked back to my street. It was at this point that he finally spat out his Kratom.

Dwarf agreed that he was definitely feeling the effects of the Kratom, saying he felt extremely talkative. Given how hard it was to get a word in edge wise with him, I'd say he was accurate. I myself, having now taken two doses of Kratom, felt more sedated than stimulated.

-Hits From The Bong-
We get inside my house and I load up my ice catcher waterpipe while Dwarf grinds up the bud. He loads up a bowl and takes the first hit, coughing a fair amount after doing so. I hit it and feel like I just got punched in the face by weed, which isn't the first time this bong has done that to me. I fetch both of us a drink, getting a glass of cranberry juice and a glass of wine for either person. We then both take a second hit.

This is where I become fucked up and spaced out. My sensory perception is subtlety altered, similar to when I took DXM and smoked at the same time. My short term memory became very unfocused. Dwarf asked me, 'Are you really that fucked up already?' I nod. He then suggests that the weed might have been laced with coke. I explain that I'm highly skeptical of that, in part due to the fact that I didn't feel stimulated, I felt REALLY baked. I then purposed that the Kratom still being in our
system was likely the reason why we felt so much more high than usual. He then drops his idea of it being laced. We both feel like going for a walk, so we do so, opting out of taking any more hits until we get back.

-Fuck Son, I'm High-
Walking was helping set my mind at ease. Dwarf still felt the need to talk excessively, but I was past that point, and simply wanted to observe my beautiful surroundings and slip deep into thought. Epiphanys about life were flowing seamlessly, my thoughts traveling far faster than while sober. I felt like I could have churned out a self help book or a fantasy novel with this mindset. I was seeing life from a metaphorical point of view. My realizations about the inter-connection of this universe and the cosmic stage we inhabit were making themselves seem like fresh ideas again, with me seeing them in a new, poetic light. I watched the wind flow through tree lines, causing thosegiant, organic structures to ripple and wave, and noted that even something so basic could be such a breathtaking sight.

I then realized that there was an ape [Dwarf] trying to make conversation with me and that I should probably acknowledge his existence, being another part of this wonderful universe and being a part of the life of the actor I was playing the role of. We then converse back and forth about philosophy, altered states of consciousness, society, and our places in life. We often have
conversations like this, but none so involved. We also were speaking in metaphors and thinking of life in ways we usually didn't. I found this very pleasant and refreshing.

We get back to my house and begin to hit the bong again. Dwarf once again begins to think it's laced, having done Lortabs and knowing the taste of them, saying that the weed tasted exactly like tabs. I was still skeptical but couldn't deny that every hit seemed to propel me much higher. We slowly take small hits, just to be safe. This goes on until the bowl is finished. We continue talking for awhile until Dwarf has to leave. We agree to save the rest of the weed for tomorrow, considering the Kratom being in our system could be the reason why we were so fucked up. We wouldn't know for sure until we tried it again with a sober state of mind.

Seeing him out, I proceeded to hobble over to my bed and pass the fuck out.

Kratom is a hell of a drug, especially with Cannabis, but to the extent that it is powerful is still questionable. It certainly passed my expectations, but I still need to figure out whether we truly had smoked something laced. If that's the case, I think I've found my new favorite drug cocktail. [Kratom, Cannabis, and Lortabs] If it was just weed, then Kratom is one of the best drugs I've ever had the pleasure of using and having a natural source of. Only later today will I find out what the truth is.

Hopefully, you found this report useful. At the least, I hope you found it somewhat amusing. Until I have more experiences in the wonderful world of intoxication and tripping, namaste my friends.

Exp Year: 2012ExpID: 97519
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 16
Published: Sep 9, 2018Views: 2,106
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