Citation: hehadabeard. "Overall It Wasn’t Useful to Me: An Experience with MDPV (exp93897)". Erowid.org. Feb 20, 2017. erowid.org/exp/93897
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Not much consistent information seems to be available regarding MDPV as many sources claim it is a weak stimulant and others like myself contend it is a very powerful drug that should not be used carelessly or possibly even recreationally at all.
Experience (read this if you feel like it, the conclusions are what I want people to see)
Basically a little background information, I’m an undergraduate student in my third year at a prominent American university. Because of my financial situation (partially my own fault because I waste too much money) I am forced to work close to full time while attending classes. I have used amphetamine in the form of adhd medication for much of college and high school to supplement both sleep and a lack of motivation to do what needs to be done.
Recently, due to a variety of reasons I have not had easy access to amphetamine and decided MDPV might be a good substitute. I will come right out and say that I was very wrong. I purchased some amount of MDPV marketed as bath salts at a local smoke shop. The product came in a small plastic vial with a black lid and cost $65. It was very close to white in color and clumped up very easily although it didn’t seem to form hard rocks.
The first time I decided to try it was shortly after I purchased it and was about to start working on a project for around the next 6 hours. I poured an unknown amount of the “bath salts”, drew the powder into a line and snorted it. I estimate it was around 15-20 mg.
Within 5 minutes I began to feel a buzz come over my body and my heart rate increased dramatically. I felt euphoric and motivated, yet very unfocused on any given thing.
I felt euphoric and motivated, yet very unfocused on any given thing.
I noticed some stomach discomfort but generally felt very good. I smoked a bowl and a cig and went to start working and by the time I set up and began I was very high. Weed seems to have a strong effect on an MDPV buzz yet even before I smoked I felt very stimulated.
After around 3 hours we took a 40 minute break to go home and eat or whatever and I chose to do another small bump. This amount was noticeably smaller than the first one, probably about 2/3 the size.
Immediately I noticed a rekindling of the sensation I experienced earlier with a few differences. The positive effects of the drug wore off rather quickly after my second dose whereas I felt good for about an hour and a half the first time, although this could result from the drastically magnified negative effects simply ruining the otherwise good buzz.
20 minutes after snorting the second dose I noticed extremely poor circulation to my extremities as well as head and face and they began to go to sleep. Suddenly very short of breath and with a natural tendency to breathe shallowly, I tried to compensate by taking large deep breaths which just made me more light headed and added to the tingle caused by poor circulation. Honestly the shortness of breath scared me a bit as it really felt like if the feeling would have intensified I wouldn’t have been able to breathe at all. Mentally I was scattered and had a hard time internalizing what people were telling me and although I heard the words it’s almost like my brain couldn’t consider them as a whole. These negative effects lasted much longer than any of the positive ones and around 6 hours after the second dose I began to feel normal.
Since then I have taken the drug and opted not to redose and basically had the same experience as when I did it the first time, a little loopy, highly stimulated, with a slight loss of circulation and shortness of breath. There has also been one instance where contrary to my better judgment I dosed and redosed two more times using about 15-20mg each time
contrary to my better judgment I dosed and redosed two more times using about 15-20mg each time
. Shortly after the second dose and almost immediately after the third one I felt like complete shit and on the verge of passing out. I struggled to breathe comfortably and could barely feel my arms, legs or head. This terrible sensation didn’t even partially go away for around 6 hours until I choked down food and I continued to feel some effect from the drug for several days while smoking weed or cigarettes as it continues to restrict my breathing.
A final experience with the drug involved a 15-20 mg dose followed almost immediately by a 5-10mg dose. The positive effects lasted a little over an hour but I began to feel like I had previously after doing what I now consider to be way too much.
All experimenting done I have used less than half of the original vial. I’d love to know how much the vial initially contained. Ultimately I would never recommend a person I care about to try MDPV as overall it wasn’t useful to me and has now left me with half a vial of a drug that I hate while at the same time am very tempted to continue using. I didn’t know how much I had or how much I was doing and I did so without knowing the degree to which MDPV is a very dose sensitive drug. Doing the “right” amount once, even if I simply guessed lead me to believe I could and want more. More really doesn’t seem like an option with this drug. The fact that it is very dose sensitive and at the same time has negative effects that far outlast the positive ones means it is very difficult to redose without having too much of it in my system at one time and experiencing very bad effects. Basically I have to wait for the drug to become mostly inactive before taking more or I will experience overlap and that can take quite a while.
Also weed and cigs really make everything worse and seem to intensify almost every negative side effect although they will seem attractive when I'm feeling good or freaking out to relieve stress. The only use I see for this drug is as a sort of pick me up that I can only use once a day as in small doses it does just that. But I would seriously space it out and recognize that limits exist. I wouldn’t be surprised if we started to see quite a few more deaths associated with this drug based on the effect it had on my circulatory and respiratory systems. To quote a good friend, I felt very mortal on this stuff…
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