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No Quite Enough
Kratom & Cannabis
by Period Blood
Citation:   Period Blood. "No Quite Enough: An Experience with Kratom & Cannabis (exp82994)". Erowid.org. Jun 7, 2016. erowid.org/exp/82994

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
1.5 g oral Kratom (extract)
  T+ 1:15 0.1 g smoked Cannabis  

BODY WEIGHT: 155 lb


Background:
I am a 21 year old female, approx 155 lb, regular cannabis user, but besides that, no other substances in the week prior to this experience. I have taken several psychoactive plants and chemicals, I am also very familiar with opiates and find them to be a personal favorite. I decided to take Kratom in an attempt to find something similar in effects to opiates without as many bad side effects. Below is an account of my first experience with Kratom.

02:35:08 PM Just took a rounded tsp (approx. 1.5 grams of 15x Kratom Extract, though there is not standard potency among the extracts or the plants they are made from) in juice...pomegranate/green tea. Didn't taste nearly as bad as I thought it would. Went down with relative ease. I've been reading trip reports all day, so I can't wait to get this one underway...let's see what happens. I worry about the dose... there doesn't seem to be any consistent information on the web... just if you take too little you get an underwhelming effect... if you take too much you can become sick.

03:07:23 PM Feeling a little woozy, but its all in my head ...no stomach issues. Feels like mild vicodin without gross Tylenol effects. Was a little jazzed when first took it, has gone away into warm head effect. Nothing too intense as of yet. Eyes seem a little on the small side. Thoughts normal... things are funny on tv and I feel as if I talking a lot to my roommates.

03:18:13 PM Feel a bit less high... could it have peaked already?? I want to take more but feel I should give it more time.

03:21:34 PM Making food small bowl of soup and a mochi ball. Yum.

03:47:21 PM Feel a bit up... nothing I would call a high, just a desire to get up and go which is different from my normal attitude of sit and chill. I guess its doing something. Just realized its been over an hour... wanted the effects to be more intense at this point... may not get to that point. Thoughts more on the quite side. Nothing to much from base line, though there is a bit of an effect. Going to smoke some pot and see where that gets me.

04:20:12 PM Felt high from the pot for a moment... that has passed and the same nondescript opiate feeling has taken back over.
04:20:12 PM Felt high from the pot for a moment... that has passed and the same nondescript opiate feeling has taken back over.
I guess these were the primary effects and now this is them settling in... I wouldn't say I have come down, but not getting any high either. It has been almost two hours. Any stimulant effect has worn off to this point. I have been spending most of my time lost in a funny tv show. Still have funny taste in my mouth from the drink. Wonder if heating it was the way to go.

05:15:20 PM Feel as if it might be over. A little bit of fuzziness remains. So far no bad sides effects at all... no sweating, not vomiting/nausea, no nothing. With that said, the effects I did feel were underwhelming. I think the next, if there is a next time, I will get an ounce of dried leaves instead of extract and make something with them that way. The thing I don't like about this leaf is the fact that it seems to be very hard to accurately does. I mean I guess this can be said about all plants, but still. I have a feeling it will be at least a few more experiences before I find what I'm looking for.

Conclusion:
Next time I will definably take more, maybe fear of the bad side effects is what held me back.. Hmm, maybe that could mean this isn't a viable plant? Only time will tell. It was fun but very underwhelming. No real head change, and no body high worth writing about this time (but wait, then what am I doing...?).

Not sure on the does for next time, maybe double? It seems one of the characteristics of this plant is its wide ranges of doses. I would highly recommend starting out slow with this plant and working to a dose that feels comfortable for the user instead of taking a balls to the wall approach, especially considering Kratom's legal status as of this report. Good for the price I suppose and it is nice to consume something that isn't illegal in the country for once.

As far as my original propose for taking this plant, I would say this was not the opiate feeling I was going for. It did at times have a glimmer of what I was looking for, but I think from now it I will be sticking to smoking opium.

Exp Year: 2009ExpID: 82994
Gender: Female 
Age at time of experience: 21 
Published: Jun 7, 2016Views: 4,911
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