Citation: Rampelflik. "I Don't Feel Very Stimulated: An Experience with DOC (exp109098)". Erowid.org. Feb 27, 2017. erowid.org/exp/109098
First DOC Experience 4mg
20160822 (Monday 22nd of August) First DOC Experience, 4mg.
Male, 30 years of age, ~85 Kg. (~187,5 Lb's).
Starting dose: 1,5mg DOC.
Final total dose: 4mg DOC (2,5-Dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine).
At home, mostly in my living room, alone. Feeling fine/good. A bit tired after work.
18:00 /T + 00:00
I eat ~1,5mg DOC on a fairly empty stomach. Preventively I consume 400 mg's of Ibuprofen to counter the headache I usually/sometimes get when eating phen's. Also it might help against some of the vasoconstriction DOC is known for.
Yesterday I ate 1mg Flunitrazepam and 10mg Diazepam somewhere around 14:00. Some residual effects of those were felt this morning. I hope it doesn't interfere too much with the DOC. Probably not, maybe making it a bit easier to handle if anything.
18:20 / T + 00:20
Onset should be 20 to 90 minutes according to psychonautwiki. Erowid says it can take up to 2 hours and 30 minutes. Nothing as of yet.
18:35 / T + 00:35
Feeling first signs now. Like a cup of coffee. Nothing more. Roll myself a joint containing some tobacco and Afghan hash. (Did smoke a couple of these during the experience. They had very little to no effect on the trip).
19:00 / T + 01:00
Stimulation has increased a bit. Visually there's nothing going on that isn't out of the ordinary.
19:05 / T + 01:05
First very slight visual effect seen while reading some text on my computer screen. The image below the text slowly and only very slightly shifted a tiny bit. Body load is present, but nothing extreme.
19:35 / T + 01:35
No obvious change in effects...
20:30 / T + 2:30
If effects have increased, it is barely noticeable, if at all. I decide to up the dosage with 2ml (1mg) for a total of 5ml (2,5mg). It's been a meager '+' sofar.
21:00 / T + 03:00
I guess the second dose should start doing something now.
21:30 / T + 03:30
Meh. Nothing much happening. Effects have increased slightly of course. Drifting/shifting has become a bit more obvious. But not unescapable/unignorable. Should I redose? Let's wait at least another half hour.
Should I redose? Let's wait at least another half hour.
22:00 / T + 04:00
Nothing much has changed. I'm going to up the ante one final time. 3ml (1,5mg) for a final total dose of 8ml (4mg).
22:40 / T + 04:40
My peripheral vision is drifting/shifting and flowing nicely. I'm starting to see the potential of this stuff. I wonder if tolerance from the first dose has made successive ones less potent.
Next time, I'll probably just go for the 5mg from the start. No tiptoeing around. Body load has maybe increased a bit but isn't overly annoying. Visuals have picked up a notch too. Nothing earth-shattering. Also no CEV's. Some minor tracers and after images.
23:45 / T + 05:45
I would describe my experience as a mediocre ++. Some muddy CEV's, though nothing pronounced. Some drifting/shifting some tracers some after images but nothing crazy. I don't expect taking 5mg in one go to be a life changing experience. I know better then to expect anyway. We'll see. So far, I feel i could do 5mg without any hiccups. Maybe even some more. But that's a concern for later. And I shouldn't forget limited first test results might be due to quick onset of tolerance after initial dose...
I don't feel very stimulated. There certainly is some stimulation, but very very mellow. No bruxism or
Listening to music that I know thoroughly, I can hear it's a bit altered. Not very noticeable. Just slightly. Not in a annoying or non-pleasing way. Not enhancing either.
03:00 / T + 09:00
Effects have slowly decreased for the past hour at least. Maybe a bit longer. There's still some visuals. But not as obvious as they were.
03:15 / T + 09:15
Eat 10mg diazepam and continue to relax.
04:05 / T + 10:05
Eat 1 mg flunitrazepam and continue to chill. Watched a tv series until I fell asleep around 08:30. By that time visuals were gone, except maybe for some very slight negligible effects (maybe a hint of drifting/shifting when staring to one point for a long time). Body load was also reduced to very minimal effects by this point.
I found this experience to be very enjoyable although maybe a bit underwhelming.
The visuals were very clean. No cluttering from after images. In my subjective opinion, the experience never went above a medium ++ trip. Visuals were limited to some slight tracers, very short-lived afterimages and drifting/shifting of textures on the walls/floors and text on the screen and such. There was no real colour enhancement, no visual acuity enhancement and no pattern recognition enhancement. There was some, although only a tiny bit, of texture repetition, colour shifting and diffraction effects. No scenery slicing. I did not see any transformations, although I do see DOC has the potential to generate these experiences. A lamp was drifting slightly compared to the background, mostly left and right, while the hood of the lamp had a (never fulfilled) inclination to rotate around it's vertical axis. I guess these effects could result in transformations if they were a lot stronger.
There were some auditory effects. Mostly slight distortions that never became to obvious. I didn't find the effects to enhance the experience of music. There were no real auditory hallucinations.
Physically there was a body load. It wasn't too bad and I only had some very minor spontaneous tactile sensations. A bit of stimulation, but never annoying or overwhelming, stimulation wasn't increased that I felt a need to move around, lying on the couch was preferred most of the time. I did experience some tactile enhancement. No nausea. Maybe a bit of vasoconstriction but i didn't really get the shivers or cold feet or anything like that. The ibuprofen might've helped in that regard. Pupils were definitly dilated. I can't comment on blood pressure and such because I don't have the equipment to measure those statistics.
Cognitive effects were minimal. I felt some stimulation but no effects that would compare to MDMA as some people have reported. I was on my own the whole time, so maybe that is the reason these effects did not manifest or become clear to me. Me being alone might have left some effects in the background and not very noticeable, for instance thought acceleration, which wasn't obvious to me. I did experience slight analytic enhancement. I can see this stuff can be very introspective and useful in this regard. Time distortion was nonexistent. I did not experience an increased libido. No real novelty enhancement. A bit of thought connectivity was perceived. Mentally I felt mostly quite sober during the experience.
Would I do DOC again? Yes. But as previously stated, I'd start with 5mg's. Probably oral administration first. Or maybe via insufflation in the future, after some further oral testing.
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