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High Dose but Easy Trip
4-AcO-MET & Cannabis
by Sandmaan
Citation:   Sandmaan. "High Dose but Easy Trip: An Experience with 4-AcO-MET & Cannabis (exp103180)". Oct 21, 2015.

T+ 0:00
25 mg oral 4-AcO-MET
  T+ 2:00 13 mg oral 4-AcO-MET
  T+ 0:00 1 smoked Tobacco - Cigarettes
  T+ 2:00 1 bowl smoked Cannabis


I had purchased 100 mg of 4-AcO-MET from an online source a couple weeks ago and wanted to try it out. I had a friend I'll call Z and another called T tripping with me.

T-0:00- I weighed out around 25 mg (however the scale was being weird, I could have taken anywhere from 25-30 mg). Ate it and let it sit in my mouth for a little. It tasted pretty bad, but not as bad as 4-AcO-DMT. T and Z dropped 20 mg and we left to go on a bike ride.

T=45:00- I'm starting to get effects, but T and Z are already tripping pretty hard. I don't really feel the effects much, and we go over to T's friends house. When we get there a few guys are playing halo and visuals start up. I noted how clean and easy the come up was! No body load whatsoever and I felt light in general, stimulated like how LSD is. Visuals were less organic than mushrooms but a bit more than acid. Visually in between the two.

T-1:00 T and Z are now tripping nuts, I'm still not feeling much in terms of headspace but my visuals are pronounced. T's friends left and we're now alone in their house, playing GTA 5. I got up and went to the bathroom and the mop inside the bathroom scared the shit out of me. It looked evil so I got out of there.

T=1:25- This is when we got on our bikes and left again. I noted how little introspection there is and it generally felt... Cold and empty. This is a very easy psychedelic to take- no deep thoughts at all. I noticed from GTA5 that there is definite enhanced music appreciation however. This made me think it would be good at concerts.

T=1:35: At this point I'm biking home and I feel really good, I decide to take off on my bike and go really fast. I'm on a bike path and passing lamp after lamp, noticing the cycles of my shadow as I pass them. I never felt more at peace during this trip than this moment right now. I felt completely at home within the repeating cycles, and I embraced them. I really want to take this again sometime so I can do this more.

T=2:00 I get home and decide to dose more as I'm not tripping nearly as hard as Z and T. I take around 13 more mgs (which may have been reckless but everything ended up fine). So I go outside and see a bunch of dudes smoking cigs (and hearing the way they were talking in waves I knew they were tripping, probably on acid) so I walked over and borrowed a lighter to smoke a cig and mentioned the day, and they confirmed my theory. At this point Z and T got back (I had taken off from them) and we put our bikes away and started walking.

2:15- we arrived at a party that we had been at the night before. We were just stopping by. When we got there they were having a bonfire and I see a friend from class, who I found out was tripping on ketamine. There was some crazy free form jazz playing over the loudspeakers and it was pretty great.

3:00- We walk around town and end up back at my room, where I find a bunch of random people I know (nobody was in my room when I left). They wanted to smoke weed so I was like fine, you can go for it, but I want to smoke first. So I smoke a bong, and this is where things turned for the worse.

3:15- I'm standing in the room and literally cannot talk. Everyone was making me feel paranoid and scared, and I couldnt understand what anyone was saying. I also was afraid to kick people out because I didn't want to offend, but I realize now that's what I should have done.

3:30- at this point, I just want to be alone, but this kid who likes me just won't fucking leave. I was experiencing a phenomenon where I could not understand what anyone was saying. I couldn't read anything, words didnt make sense. I could understand what people were saying, but I would see the words come out of their mouths and literally get obliterated into space. There was no communication.

4:00- I want to go on a bike ride and this kid decides to invite himself, so we get out biking and I end up leaving when he is ahead of me. I went home to chill and was there for no more than 15 minutes and he showed up again. Fuck. Whatever.

At this point in my mind, I was viewing my life from a 'birds eye view'. What I mean by this is I was looking at my past weeks with a sort of clarity and was able to see the cycles I was going through in my life- and how it all seems so... Similar.

I started getting hard on myself- and I kept feeling like I had failed in life. I'm only 20 and in college so this isnt true.., I also have a 3.6 and am doing fairly well but I know in my heart that I'm not trying my hardest... Or at all. This got to me but I was able to control my emotions pretty well.

This became an internal argument between my two selves- my new and my old. I have been raised in a fairly conservative and practical family. They are pretty traditional and don't see outside the box. You go to school, get a job, have a mortgage, and you're happy. You know? In this sense I have been feeling like I have failed my parents, as I don't put much value on those things and I honestly don't care about having a stable job.. Or a stable life for that matter. This is when I would argue back with my 'new' self, which was arguing that I don't care... I don't give a fuck about getting a desk job or things like that, I just want to live my life to the fullest. I still agree with the latter, but there was a good period where I was arguing with myself.

6:00 I finally tell this kid to leave, and it takes me three times until he actually leaves. Right after he leaves T walks back into my room and asks how my trip went. Unfortunately I feel like I wasted the ending part (I'm still not feeling so good about how it ended) and I find out he retreated to his room to have the most intense experience of his life. We discuss our trips, I have another cigarette and he ends up going to bed. I stay up for another hour to watch american horror story, which wasn't scary at all (as usual, its a pretty mediocre show).

Overall, this drug was a good time. I wish I could have seperated myself from that kid, but unfortunately I couldn't formulate the sentences in order to do that. I'll just have to have another experience some other time by myself.

Things I noticed are the complete lack of body load, which was AWESOME. I also noticed that the visuals were more than I usually get, especially after I smoked weed. After I smoked I went on a bike ride and was seeing a lot of Egyptian/aztec symbols everywhere. I personally wouldn't smoke too much, if any, weed next time I did this because it made ME paranoid. Of course weed affects everyone differently and this is a subjective experience.

I'm sorry for the wall of text, I'm also doing this to resolve my trip, especially because the ending part wasn't so great. I needed closure.

I think this drug would be fantastic for a concert or festival, as it is a pretty stimulating and visual drug without the headspace. I think I am going to save it for a concert or something, but who knows, I may end up doing it sometime in the forest.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 103180
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 19 
Published: Oct 21, 2015Views: 6,560
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