Citation: Psychedelic Networer. "4-Flourreal: An Experience with 4-Fluoroamphetamine (exp101235)". Erowid.org. Apr 20, 2017. erowid.org/exp/101235
Back ground: I'm a 19 year old male, who has been battling drug abuse since I was 15 years old. I've recently come under better control of my drug use, and I'm not doing them as much, but this hasn't been without a few mishaps. October of 2012, I started getting addicted to cocaine after getting over a ketamine addiction, which resulted in me dropping out of college. I sold a lot of things I owned to support my addiction, until I came across real good, hi-heat (flake, shale, etc.) cocaine from peru. This was the bees nees, and a gram had me and my partner in crime (G) for a day and the next, however from this point on my addiction spiraled down. I managed to go to school, but did a lot of coke.
Got out of it eventually with help of the girl I am now dating. Slipped up along the way a handful of times, two of which I blacked out on. Got addicted to prescriptions stimulants with the excuse of school, and that lasted a month. Since then, I've been in pretty good control of my drug use, still doing a little more than I should, but school is starting so I'm not going to do them a lot anymore.
Substances Tried: 2CB, LSD, Mushrooms, DMT, 25C-NBOMe, 25I-NBOMe, Mescaline, Ketamine, MXE, Meth, Adderal, Dexedrine, MDMA, MDA, Coke, Crack, Heroin, Xanax, Clonazepam, Ativan, Valium, DXM, weed, 4-fa, alcohol, cigarettes.
Favourites: Coke, Meth, DMT, Weed, Ketamine, 4-fa, MDMA, and MDA.
Least liked (in order, most to least): 25I-NBOME, 2CB, Crack, meth.
Previous experience with 4-fa: I have done 4-fa once with my girlfriend, but that it appeared to be weak for both the gf and I, although we dosed a total of 325MG over the course of 5 hours. She had done dex twice in the week prior most recent being two days before, and I had done dex twice in the week prior, and adderall once before. The last time being two days before the 4-fa. It was enjoyable, but as I said felt weak which is explainable by the previous amp use. It was fun, clear-minded, good feeling, and stimulating, although it was never bad. The gf was slightly disappointed, but that's because I exaggerated the effects to her (so she says).
Setting: Sitting in my room, bored, just got back from a drive returning from vacation. Earlier in the day I had taken 1.25 Gravols to deal with Motion Sickness. Was feeling a bit tired before doing the 4-fa.
10:11pm t(0:00): 50mg snorted
Burns quite a bit when snorted, not a pleasant burn at all. The drugs I've previously snorted are meth, adderal, mdma, cocaine, methylone, various opiates. The worst burning of them all was meth. This was worse than meth, although it was short lived maybe 30 seconds or so. The first line really painful, and made my brain tingle in one spot in a electro-statically sort of way. The burn felt like hot shards of glass. Using some saline nasal spray, it helped ease the pain.
10:16pm t(0:05): Starting to feel something; Feels a tiny bit rushy, but in a relaxing sort of way. A different kind of rush compared to drugs I've done before. feeling more alert than before.
10:22pm (T 0:11): The intensity has increased steadily over the last few minutes. Noticing a bit more euphoria, no where near what I've gotten from MDMA. Although its really nice, I imagine music would sound pretty nice.
10:55pm (T 0:44): The euphoria has faded, leading to a very amphetamine like mind-state, however it doesn't have the usual negative that I've gotten from amphetamines like meth, adderal, or dexedrine. In fact, it is a very relaxing simulation, with a really nice clarity of mind. Don't feel jittery at all, but I feel pretty good.
I decide to snort the remaining pile of 25mg. It burns like before, although none of the brain tingles. Again I wait a few minutes, and use some saline nasal spray. So far only a tiny runny nose, my nose is not plugged or any symptoms of long term irritation.
11:10pm (T 0:59): Euphoria from the last dose has fully emerged, although it wasn't as strong as the first time. Previous feelings of clarity, and amphetamine mind-state have increased. Still no negative feelings, I do have a slightly increased heart rate.
11:30pm (T 1:29): Euphoria has pretty much left; previously reported feelings have increased even more, again with no negatives. Feeling absolutely fantastic. During this experience I have tried Playing Dead Island on the computer. It only lasted 30 minutes or so until I died and stopped playing. But for those 30 minutes it was really enjoyable; Very captivating, and more intense that it usually is sober. I've also started watching Super Troopers, but not really paying full attention. Its entertaining, but I feel like I could be doing something else.
I've also masturbated, and it was very enjoyable and felt good, although when I finished it didn't have the usual omph it does. I'm still horny, and would love to be with my girlfriend right now. It's worth mentioning a feel has started, that is tingly sensation starting at the bottoms of my palms and moving up my arm. I've had this before while really high on coke, and at first it's a little worrisome, but than starts feeling good.
I smoked a bowl of Sativa and indica out of my bong, and it really added to the buzz. Normally I don't like blazing until I've started coming down on amphetamines, and either drank or taken some benzos as I get really anxious. However this time it has done nothing but good things (intensified the experience, and brought back some euphoria).
Cigarettes are nice, but nothing special.
11:55pm (T 1:54): I weighed out 40mg on my 0.001g scale, and mixed it with water to plug. I set aside 10mg to snort. I mix the 4-fa with water, and pull it into a syringe. I do the usual routine with plugging (don't want to be to graphic as this is a public report) and sat down at my computer.
12:00am (T 2:00): A nice, slightly euphoric rush has begun to appear, getting stronger by the minute. IT is euphoric, but stimulating as well. Stronger of a rush than when I snorted the 50mg earlier, maybe another 50% stronger. No increased in negative effects, although the tingly sensation has hit the top of my shoulder blades and my face. Really liking the bonus the tingly sensation is adding. Music sounds fucking great! I proceed to do the 10mg bump sitting on my table, didn't hurt too much (I have a feeling my nose is desensitized a bit) but there is still some pain. Saline spray is used.
I smoke more weed, and it adds to the experience once again. Having a cigarette was nice.
12:10am (T 2:10)I weigh out the remaining 63mg on my scale, and mix it into a solution of water for plugging. I accidentally added too much water (7ml instead of the usual 3ml) and because of this, I think some didn't absorb properly.
12:20am (T 2:20) Feels like some definitely did get wasted, as it wasn't as strong as the last plug I did. Although this could be do to increased tolerance, and up and downs from all the redosing, and thinking about that more seems like a more likely possibility. I start writing this report.
12:40am (T 2:40)Just took two bongs rips of indica, and it increased the tingly sensation and the intensity of the high. Of all a sudden I'm feeling much higher, as if a dose started to quick in. Perhaps there was delayed absorption to an extreme degree?
Feeling absolutely awesome, with very little negative side effects. A small increase in heart rate, dry mouth, and a little bit of jaw tension. No anxiety, or paranoia.. Music continues to sound fucking great, and I'm getting a really nice level of calming euphoria, and clear minded stimulation.
1:17am (T 3:17) The euphoria has stopped peaking by now and is fading away, being replaced by a really nice level of stimulation. Still feeling fantastic, and although I'm not doing much (writing a report, listening to music, talking to gf) I feel like I'm enjoying my time. Not upset or bothered that the 4-fa is gone, in fact even if I had more, I don't think I will redose.
1:36am (T 3:37) The euphoria is gone, and has been replaced by a strong feeling of clarity, clean stimulation, but also being relaxed. Indica weed feels really nice. I get the bag containing the rest of my xanax (maybe .1-.15mg as a powder, but a really caked bag that contained 1/4 gram of alprazolam powder *licks lips* which will be enough to use before wanting to go to sleep.
1:46am (T 3:47) Definitely starting to come down a bit, but it's not too bad. A smooth come down, easiest comedown of any amphetamine I've done. The only comedown that's as easy as this, is that from really good MDMA, and mushrooms. I'm going to finish the report here, as there isn't much else to say. I expect to be in bed and asleep by 6am at the latest, maybe around 4:30am with my xanax.
Thinking about making a rum and coke soon, starting to smoke more weed as well. I don't have an urge to redose, nothing like I have with cocaine, or dexedrine. More of a thinking that it would be nice if I had some extra, but it doesn't bother me. I could very well say no if I had more, and probably would as it is late.
4-fa is an absolutely wonderful compound, and pretty much the best amphetamine I've done. I'm very glad I gave it a second try, and it was definitely worth it. Showed me the magic of 4-fa, and that it needs to be kept special. It is now my favourite amphetamine, as it seems like it has a few better uses than standard amphetamines. In high doses, it was euphoric for the first bit, than transitioned to a nice, crisp, and clear mental stimulation, which I could use to do some work, or perhaps some lab assignments and have increased productivity, and enjoyment. I assume in low doses it would be much better suited for educational purposes. I can't wait to share a proper experience with my girlfriend and this chemical. I'm ordering some more tomorrow, but from a different vendor who has reportedly stronger and more pure 4-fa.
Comedown: The comedown the first time was really smooth, weed went super well with it, and some xanax before sleep was perfect, although if I didn't have a time constraint as to when I had to be asleep, I could've easily done without the xanax. This time (current experience) has still been a smooth comedown, and I imagine it will continue to be this way. Starting to doubt whether or not I'll even need the Xanax tonight. I don't know as to what the day after effects are like as the first time, I was blacked out on xanax so I'll find out when I wake up.
Doesn't have a bad come down or feature bad side effects like traditional amphetamines (such as Dexamp, Meth).
-Clarity of thought
-Lucid flow of thoughts
-A calming stimulation
-Overall feeling of excellence, and being great.
-Slightly increased heart rate, nothing to be concerned of though.
-Increase in body temperature
-When I get up from sitting, it feels as if I'm a bit sore. Could be due to poor circulation from sitting, and increased blood pressure.
-Dry mouth (more of a nuisance really)
-A little jaw tension (no jaw clenching, just an increased in jaw tension)
-At one point sometime after the 2nd plugging, my abdomen felt a bit sore and painful. This lasted for a few minutes and hasn't returned.
*Note on Negative effects: Pretty much the same negative effects as with other amphetamines I've done, although not as severe or intense. This is interesting because I got to a higher level with this chemical, than I have with amphetamines before.
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