Citation: C. "Changa and Syrian Rue a Warning: An Experience with Huasca Combo (Syrian Rue & DMT) (exp98023)". Erowid.org. Nov 23, 2017. erowid.org/exp/98023
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This Trip Report is to highlight the possible danger of combining Changa and Syrian Rue. I am quite an experienced tripper having taken LSD, Mushrooms, Ecstasy, Ayahuasca and a number of non psychedelic drugs. I have eaten 10 grams of mushrooms a number of times as well as eating entire sheets of LSD. My experience with the combination of Syrian Rue, Changa and DMT was clearly physiologically dangerous. I do not recommend it. After a number of experiences with Syrian Rue I will no longer be using it. It does not have the same “guardian” qualities as caapi vine used in traditional ayahuasca.
12:00- After lightly boil 1.9g of syrian rue for 35 minutes I drink the syrian rue.
12:45- I ingest the changa and DMT spice, the spice is orange, I had packed them into capsules.
13:30- begin noticing signs of DMT working. The effect is markedly different from ayahuasca or smoked DMT.
13:45 begin feeling nauseous, start to feel strong effects of DMT, quite wild and uncontrolled in comparison to ayahuasca. Vaporise some cannabis.
14:10 Vomit violently
14:20 Vomit violently again
14:30 Am unable to urinate and am beginning to feel that something has gone seriously wrong.
14:45 I realise that my body is being poisoned by something I ingested. I have the sense that the Syrian Rue, being an MAOI-a is inhibiting the enzyme necessary for the breaking down of this toxic chemical.
15:00 I lied down on the bed and began to hum tonic dominant tonic (musicians will understand), I had the sense that I was being given a tool to enable me to hold on to something as my body fought the toxin. By this point my lips have turned blue and I am breathing with difficulty. There is a burning sensation in my kidneys and I am unable to urinate.
my lips have turned blue and I am breathing with difficulty. There is a burning sensation in my kidneys and I am unable to urinate.
15:05 I realise that my body is creating spit to dry and digest whatever is causing it so much trouble but is unable create the enzyme due to the syrian rue. I ask my girlfriend who is sober to spit into a glass in order for me to drink it and hopefully use her enzymes to digest the changa. I also have a bit of water and some active yoghurt.
15:10 I sit down and began to sound the AUM (OM) loudly focusing on the solar plexus to throat to lips and circulating the microcosmic orbit in order to facilitate urinating and reestablish proper kidney and liver function.
15:30 I finally urinate, I return back to baseline over several hours.
I recognise the feeling of my liver and kidneys beginning to fail as I have experienced it on an overdose of ecstasy. I faced a real danger of death or permanent damage to my organs. If I had not had some experience of facing death, or if my girlfriend had not been there I believe that I would have panicked and not taken the necessary measures to save my life. I cannot stress enough that the danger was physiologically real unlike with LSD or psilocybin mushrooms. Syrian Rue does not seem to have the depth or protective qualities of more traditional MAOI plants. I and others round me have used it with mushrooms and experienced negative effects as well.
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