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Chemical Cocktail
4-HO-DET, MDMA & 2C-E
by kem-x
Citation:   kem-x. "Chemical Cocktail: An Experience with 4-HO-DET, MDMA & 2C-E (exp27046)". Erowid.org. Sep 23, 2003. erowid.org/exp/27046

 
DOSE:
    Nitrous Oxide  
  40 mg oral 4-HO-DET (cookie / food)
  10 mg oral 2C-E (pill / tablet)
  200 mg oral MDMA (capsule)
  100 mg oral MDMA (capsule)
      Cannabis  

BODY WEIGHT: 150 lb


I was at a festival in upstate mass. It was at a campground in the mountains surrounded by beautiful fields in late september. I was very happy to be here as I hadn't really attended any festivals this year so I really wanted to have a great time seeing as how this was probably the last one I'll be able to attend until next year. I went up with a large assortment of substances including ayahuasca, 2C-E, and 4-HO-DET. I have done each on their own and had a great time on each, especially 2C-E and ayahuasca. I decided to skip the ayahuasca since I figured I'd want to try flipping some MDMA with something.

Well, it's now or never I thought and with that I acquired 3 caps of MDMA at 100mg each and swallowed 2 of them. Then ate 2 chocolates containing 4-HO-DET, and swallowed a pill containing 10mg 2C-E. I followed this girl to the nitrous tanks and sucked down a balloon. This kicked in the visuals rather quickly.

One thing about the ethycin is that I don't get the head high that mushrooms give me. It's actually quite different than shrooms and has more of a 'research chem' feel to it in that I feel mostly sober mentally. After about an hour??? I decided to take another MDMA pill to see if I could kick thing up a notch both physically/mentally. This was probably a mistake because I don't think I was even close to the peak at that point and this 3rd pill may have been the cause of what happened next.

Even 20min after swallowing it the only difference I felt was the visuals increasing. And they just kept increasing, and increasing, and increasing.... I went to sit outside the hippie-rave cabin to enjoy the psychedelic music. I never felt sick or anything as these visuals intensified nor did I feel like I couldn't handle it, or like I was loosing myself/ego like on too much acid.

At this point the visuals where ridiculously intense. Everything changed, it was more intense than high doses of ayahuasca. Everything was glowing and covered in brightly colored morphing fractals. I figured I had better meet up with my friends before things get too intense so they could help me out just in case things get out of hand. I trekked into the woods and I wasn't able to get too far. It was nighttime but all I could see was a kolidascope of fractals and nothing more, no trees no people, no tents not even myself, was visible anymore.

One of the weirdest things is even through all this I felt relatively straight mentally. Nothing close to sober but for the most part not too bad just like a had a psychedelic blindfold on or something, and I was starting to get hungry (remember I'm on lots of psychedelics including 300mg of MDMA). So I asked some people I could hear passing by to help me find a way to get food and water. So they helped me to the food stand and I just held out some money and said 'food please!' They didnt understand what was going on so I explained to the guy. It was very difficult to get the money to hand to him.

Eventually the food made it to my hands but it was not very fulfilling. I was trying to remain positive but once my body started going numb like when your leg falls asleep I knew something was wrong. I just lay on the ground and things started to get bad, my recollection of everything from that point on is somewhat gone but I can tell you that it was bad. I started getting random pains, I just started saying I need pharmies but I knew I wouldn't get any this way so I gave in and said 'help, I need a hospital, I'm dying, 911' etc... It was a totally different bad trip than acid. You can watch yourself die, I felt like I was becoming a zombie. I felt like I was watching resident evil but and I was one of the living dead. At the time this analogy made complete sense and now I have a hard time understanding my mindset. It wasn't like acid were it feels like my brain being put through a blender, I did feel like I would die though, if those negative physical symptoms never came into play I probably could have handled the blinding visuals and rode it out, but once they kicked in my mindset went to shit.

After they fixed me my visuals died down quite a bit but were still pretty intense. They let me go and I could think of was how stupid I was. I shouldn't of been so gluttonous with the drugs, I should have obtained to xanax/valium beforehand, and I shouldn't have said so much stupid shit after they found me. Even though these research chems can be fun I think I'll stick to natural drugs from now on.

Exp Year: 2003ExpID: 27046
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given 
Published: Sep 23, 2003Views: 2,688
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