Had a Great Time Until Time Started Going Backward
2C-B-FLY, MPT & Cannabis
Citation:   Sally Queenz. "Had a Great Time Until Time Started Going Backward: An Experience with 2C-B-FLY, MPT & Cannabis (exp117194)". Erowid.org. Nov 27, 2023. erowid.org/exp/117194

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20 mg oral 2C-B-Fly (pill / tablet)
  T+ 5:00 32 mg smoked MPT (powder / crystals)
  T+ 5:00   smoked Cannabis - High THC  
  T+ 6:00 2-3 mg oral Pharms - Olanzapine  
A few days ago I was over at my girlfriendís house with the intention of tripping. I wanted to try out 2C-B-FLY and revisit MPT, she wanted to try combining 4-HO-MiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT. Doses were as follows:

-20mg of 2C-B-FLY at 7pm
- 32mg of MPT Fumarate sandwiched in a bowl of some strong weed at around 12am
- 2 or 3mg of Olanzapine at around 1am probably

- 10mg of 4-HO-MiPT + 5mg of 5-MeO-MiPT at 7pm
- Some pulls of my weed vaporizer at around 12am

TL;DR: We had sex for a few hours, then ate some chicken wings and felt very primal and predatory. Looked at textures and paintings after that, visuals were nice. We had sex again, then we were gonna watch Everything Everywhere All at Once, but I went out to smoke my MPT first. Smoked it, didnt know where to put the ashes and got a bit anxious. Went back inside, she kept asking me where I wanted to put the ashes and I gave nonsense answers. I started feeling like time was going backwards and that I wasnt real. I told her to give me some Olanzapine, I then went to sleep and sorted the ash thing in the morning.

We started off with some ginger tea, magnesium and L-Citrulline for me about an hour before dosing. We wanted to start a bit earlier but the circumstances made it happen this way. I never had any real nausea, but I did get a bit gassy and my stomach kept making noise, but it was only mildly annoying and not a hindrance.

She started coming up sooner than I did, even tho I chewed my pellets. The taste was soapy in a slightly chemical way, slightly bitter but not as much as tryptamines. I expected metallic, this was interesting. We started foreplay immediately after dosing so we were having sex as she came up. We had a blue and green spinny light in the room and it added a lot to the vibe. We were playing some sensual music from a fresh playlist I had prepared a few days prior, and that also added a lot to the sex.

Eventually I came up and started laughing a lot, similarly to 4-HO-MET but a little less. I started getting distracted by my thoughts as we kissed. The sensual playlist was over so I decided to play some Infected Mushroom, Heavyweight was playing, the sounds wasnít too enhanced but I kept imagining war planes battling it out in the clouds (these were thoughts, not CEVs, I dont think I ever had CEVs throughout this experience). She looked like a slightly alien beautiful blue creature, thanks to the blue light we had on. She wasnít quite avatar blue, but thatís probably the best comparison I can give.

Eventually we went to eat some chicken wings, as I hadnít eaten since the morning and it was around 10pm at this point. She was quite hungry but I wasnt, but I did have a lot of energy. As we were kissing before, I kept shaking my legs around because I wasnt outputting enough energy. We went downstairs for the wings, the change of scenery was interesting and kickstarted the visuals for me. We struggled a bit to read the instructions on the packet, but we figured it out after a good 15 minutes. I wasnt hungry but I was able to eat a bit. The flavor was not very pronounced, but I think it was the wings themselves not being the best as they were the kind that are already cooked and you just throw in the microwave. I kept looking at my girlfriend as she ate them, and couldnít help but think that the act of eating wings felt very primal and predatory, especially since she was chewing on the bones and making crunchy noises. She said that her hearing was super sharp and that all she could focus on was the noise of biting into the wings and the crunchy cartilage/bone.

Looking at the wooden floor was very interesting, the patterns flowed upwards then in and out, and when they did they turned very gothic and pointy. Most things flowed in one direction or in and out, but nothing really morphed into other things like on 4-HO-MET. I went to the living room where there were a few paintings and more cool textures, but they werenít that impressive. I mostly just wanted to move.

We went back upstairs and had sex again. For me, the sex wasnít too enhanced by the 2C-B-FLY, I was no more sensitive than usual, didnt feel any magical connection and the orgasm wasnít more intense like on 4-HO-MiPT. Thats not to say the sex wasnít more enjoyable than usual, as she was extremely sensitive from the tryptamines and that added a lot to my own enjoyment. I wont get too much into detail, but this is some of the best sex weve ever had, if not the best.

When we were done, we intended to put on Everything Everywhere All at Once but kept getting distracted as we didnít quite know what to do. Eventually I just said ďok im gonna go smoke my MPT bowl. We went to the backyard and I smoked this thing while she vaped a bit of weed from my Pax 2. I used a weed pipe with the 32mg of MPT sandwiched between some particularly strong weed, and a not very sedating strain, which probably contributed to the derailment of my trip.

The smoke was harsh, but bearable. When I finished the bowl/couldnít take any more, I started wondering where I could put the ashes, and got stuck in a sort of loop. First I tried pouring them in some plants but it was all stuck to the pipe and felt like Id get burnt if I tried to get it out with my fingers (lol). Eventually we went back inside as we felt we were making a little too much noise for 12:30pm at night.

When we were back in her room, she was still asking me where I was gonna put the ashes (we couldnít stink up the house since she doesnít live alone and her housemate doesnít approve of weed and would be coming home the next morning), and she said she felt like she was dealing with a child (not very far off tbh). At this point I didnít have that many visuals, but it was hard to focus and I started getting this feeling like time was going backwards and culminating in the present moment, and felt like Id be stuck like that forever. The feeling was somewhat panicky, almost like an impending doom feeling but not quite like something terrible was gonna happen, just that Id be stuck and that what I was experiencing wasnt real. Eventually I told her I needed a trip killer. Fortunately, before we started tripping she asked me where they were so I took them out and placed them on the desk in her room for ease of access. The antipsychotic of choice here was Olanzapine, as I didnít have any benzodiazepines on hand. These pills are 10mg, which I find is too much and leaves me zombified and extremely lethargic for like a day and a half afterwards, so I split one of these pills. It crumbled a bit when I did, and broke into like 4 pieces. She gave me the smallest one, probably like 2mg, which was a good call.

After that, she put on an X-Files movie (?) and we just laid in bed for a while until she fell asleep, then I also fell asleep after the movie finished. I do not know what happened in that movie. At some point I woke up and disposed of the ashes by putting them in a ziploc bag and throwing it in the trash.

Conclusion: 2C-B-FLY seems like a great chemical for walking around in nature, or just being outdoors doing something active. It might be good for a concert, but I dont think itíd be better than a proper empathogen, at least this dose. I will never smoke a base tryptamine with weed again.
I will never smoke a base tryptamine with weed again.
I had tried MPT alone and in combination with 4-HO-MET before and found it really enjoyable, and I think it was the weed that tipped it over the edge and gave me this surreal/backwards-in-time feeling this time.

I only have about 40-50mg left of my sample so I might try it on its own or whenever I dig into my aMT. I dont regret the experience, but do not wish to repeat it. The MPT part that is, before that it was a really enjoyable trip.

Exp Year: 2023ExpID: 117194
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 19
Published: Nov 27, 2023Views: 15
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