New, Vintage, and Signed Blotter Art
Contribute $50 or more and get a piece of displayable
blotter art. These look great framed on the wall !
A Beautiful Paradoxically Lucid 'Breakthrough'
4-HO-MET, Cocaine, Alcohol, Cannabis & DMT
Citation:   TSVIncognito. "A Beautiful Paradoxically Lucid 'Breakthrough': An Experience with 4-HO-MET, Cocaine, Alcohol, Cannabis & DMT (exp116335)". May 10, 2022.

T+ 0:00
25 mg oral 4-HO-MET
  T+ 0:05 1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine
  T+ 0:30 1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine
  T+ 1:00 1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine
  T+ 1:30 25 mg insufflated Cocaine
  T+ 1:30 10 mg oral 4-HO-MET
  T+ 2:00 25 mg insufflated Cocaine
  T+ 2:00 1 glass   Alcohol - Beer/Wine
  T+ 3:00 25 mg insufflated Cocaine
  T+ 3:00 1 glass   Alcohol - Beer/Wine
  T+ 4:00   vaporized Cannabis
  T+ 4:15   vaporized Cannabis
  T+ 4:30 2 hits vaporized DMT

Time: 2:00PM
Setting: Backyard/House

Some friends came over for the day to hang out and enjoy the beautiful weekend weather around noon. Our backyard is relatively small and borders another house but we've put some effort into making the space as useable as possible. A few lounge chairs were positioned in the sun, 3 paired Sonos speakers provide great music coverage, and some outdoor furniture in the shade make for an incredibly cozy place to relax for the day.

The initial plan was simply to drink, listen to some EDM, and enjoy the weather, however it had been a few years since I've last tried 4-HO-MET so I held off on drinking to feel out the vibe and confirm it was a good day to embark on my own little adventure.

At around 2PM things were in full swing, everyone was chatting, our chocolate lab was living his best life enjoying playing in the new grass we planted for her, and the sun was complemented by a nice gentle breeze. At this point I decided it was a great setting to jump back into 4-HO-MET.
I decided it was a great setting to jump back into 4-HO-MET.

Past Experience:
Past research has been conducted with: Shrooms, LSD, 1P-LSD, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET (only once though), 2C-B, 2C-B-FLY, AL-LAD (a liquid vial that tragically broke while still half full, FAR better than any tabs I've tried thereafter), DPT, DMT, 25i-NBOMe, DOC, MDA, 6-APB, and more. Most have been researched at a wide range of dosages, however the heaviest doses for each class are approximately ~1100ug LSD-25, ~55mg 4-AcO-DMT, and ~55mg of 2C-B HBr.

Ingested approximately 25mg of 4-HO-MET accompanied by a glass of champagne. I suspected this may be a lighter dose for my considering my seemingly higher natural metabolism of Tryptamines but didn't want to push too far given I would be the only one in the group tripping.

My first alert to the substance becomes clear through a slight pressure in my eardrums, this is always the first indicator of psychoactive effects. Timing aligns with past Tryptamine experience, I typically expect to "enter" the trip around the 30 minute mark.

Just as expected I notice a distinct shift in my body's senses, a slight tingling accompanied by a mild body load begins to develop as I pour myself another glass of champagne. Very subtle, but still noticeable, pattern recognition always makes itself clear when gazing at the textured stucco walls on either side of our backyard.

The come up has been extremely mild, I suspect the reasonable amounts of champagne combined with socializing has minimized the effects. At this point there's a very noticeable breathing of objects combined with distinct shrooms-esque pattern recognition and color enhancement. I move to one of the loungers in the sun and our pup seems to intuit my altered state, she comes to join me and lays between my legs with her head on my thigh. A perfect tripping companion, she's noticeably more calm than typical (she's still a puppy) which I greatly appreciate.

Despite the very apparent visual effects at this point, I'm still having fun socializing and talking amongst my friends. The headspace seems to be very clear, a perfect amount of heightened interest and silliness without being overbearing or pushy.

Very much enjoying the experience at this point, the visual are surprisingly strong but seem to be potentially reaching close to their peak. Colors and patterns are abound, each slate tile in the background has its own character to it. Some are stained, dirtier, and marred with imperfects while others are smooth and cleaner. As I switch my focus from one tile to another I begin to appreciate the massive variation in something so simple as stone tiles.

My body is warm and comfortable, personally 4-AcO-DMT/Shrooms provide my favorite body high and this is no different. I've since transitioned from the lounger to the ground and the feeling of warm stone on my skin in combination with the serene body high is pristine.

Although difficult, the crew decides to head inside momentarily for a little energy boost and I oblige to join. As I stand the body load becomes far more noticeable, "heavy" is how I would describe it (but not in a pleasant, comfortable, goofy high type of way).

After taking a line of coke I decide to add a small oral dose to elongate the duration, knowing I can have a start-to-finish shrooms trip (with lemon-tek) in 3 hours I suspect the trip will begin to decline soon and want to continue enjoying the day.

+2:00 - +4:00:
Sun is still out and the small line of cocaine really brightened things up. I've been laughing, talking, and moving about entirely comfortable and relatively clear-headed for the entire duration of the trip up to this point.

The visual acuity and color enhancement is wonderful, despite my already substantially increased tolerance the additional 10mg seems to have pushed the trip slightly more, just as I had hoped. At this point I'm finding 4-HO-MET substantially divergent from 4-AcO-DMT and shrooms in two distinct ways
I'm finding 4-HO-MET substantially divergent from 4-AcO-DMT and shrooms in two distinct ways

(1) the headspace (and to a certain degree level of visual activity) is very controllable. While talking with friends my visual field tends to calm and I have little issues communicating. While forming sentences takes slightly more effort, I'm still very "present" as evidenced by the fact that two members of the group completely forgot I was tripping until I reminded them.

(2) the color enhancement seems to be noticeably more pronounced when compared to the aforementioned two compounds. While not as vibrant/neon as 2C-B, I still find the visual field to be pleasingly accompanied by a beautiful array of colors.

Closed Eye Visuals also seem more prominent, strangely enough, than past experiences with similar analogues at similar dosages. I lie on the stone tiling in the sun amidst some ivy overflowing from the planter and enjoy the CEVs for about 15 minutes. Very distinct "waves" of color shift from dominant red, to oranges and yellows, and then bright blues. It's almost as if these waves of color and associated geometry ebb and flow, competing with one another but no single color is able to "win" this battle throughout the experience. Very enjoyable and fascinating.

At this point there is no longer any direct sun in the backyard, although there's still about an hour before it completely sets. My friends have headed inside and I've taken over music and continue to chill outside alone. I was happy to have them around, but decide to carefully smoke some weed to enhance the trip as it begins to taper off.

Weed can be incredibly powerful when combined with psychedelics, significantly confusing the headspace and functionality. I've found smoking after the peak reduces, but doesn't eliminate this. Despite this, I'm happy to find the visual aspect of the trip immediately picks back up with minimal headspace interruption. The two clearly synergize well, as is the case for all the substances researched during the trip.

I'm still happy and lucid, and at this point decide that since I'm alone the trip seems to have maybe 30 minutes (at best) left, to bring my e-dab rig outside and cold-start a moderate amount of DMT.

I lay in the lounge chair, looking through the trees towards the setting sun and take two hits (separated by about 5 minutes). I estimate I likely used 75% of the 30mg I initially loaded.

Confusion and heightened activity set in after the first hit, but after the initial buzz (lasting around 3-5 minutes) my visual field is now substantially increased.

I took a deep breath and hit the rig again, held for 10 seconds, and then exhaled. What followed was a level of lucidity and visual insanity I've never experienced.

I've dived as deep at 100mg DPT + 50mg DMT, but I find the further I push the DMT dose the less clear the experience becomes. This was quite the opposite.

I found myself, completely aware of my surroundings, sense of self intact (in this way I would not consider it a traditional breakthrough), even able to change the song and interact with my phone. Yet when gazing into the trees veritable dimensions and an ever-changed cosmic plane presented themselves with an incredible sharpness.

I was able to focus in on even the most minute lines and details which I could observe with absolute and unmatched clarity. Entire colorfully and geometrically spiritual realities shifted before me for a solid 15 minutes before I finally started to come-down from the experience.

I still remember every detail of the experience to a FAR higher degree than I've been able. Even relatively lucid LSD + DMT combinations could not match the synergy between these two. While DMT seems to present itself in a very cartoonish/cube-ish manner when combined with Lysergamines/Phenethylamines, this was entirely different. The two worked together in perfect harmony, and the landscapes were beautifully and distinctly natural.

The experience, and the combination, just felt right. In the future, I will certainly be experimenting with a single higher dose of 4-HO-MET combined with DMT at the peak, as I imagine that would be present an even more mind-blowing experience. BUT, one of the most special components of this particular trip was the fact that I was so entirely present throughout, which I attribute to timing the DMT on the back-end of the trip.

After writing this out I've realized its rather lengthy, but overall this was an A+++ experience and one I'll write home about in the years to come.

Exp Year: 2022ExpID: 116335
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 25
Published: May 10, 2022Views: 799
[ View PDF (to print) ] [ View LaTeX (for geeks) ] [ Swap Dark/Light ]
4-HO-MET (436), Cocaine (13), Alcohol - Beer/Wine (199), Cannabis (1), DMT (18) : Small Group (2-9) (17), General (1)

COPYRIGHTS: All reports copyright Erowid.
No AI Training use allowed without written permission.
TERMS OF USE: By accessing this page, you agree not to download, analyze, distill, reuse, digest, or feed into any AI-type system the report data without first contacting Erowid Center and receiving written permission.

Experience Reports are the writings and opinions of the authors who submit them. Some of the activities described are dangerous and/or illegal and none are recommended by Erowid Center.

Experience Vaults Index Full List of Substances Search Submit Report User Settings About Main Psychoactive Vaults