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A Stronger Entactogen Than Expected
by PsychoticCorpse
Citation:   PsychoticCorpse. "A Stronger Entactogen Than Expected: An Experience with 3-Fluoroamphetamine (exp114554)". Jul 15, 2020.

T+ 0:00
30 mg oral 3-Fluoroamphetamine (liquid)
  T+ 0:45   vaporized Cannabis (extract)
  T+ 4:20 20 mg oral 3-Fluoroamphetamine (liquid)
  T+ 6:00 20 mg oral 3-Fluoroamphetamine (liquid)
  T+ 0:00   repeated vaporized Cannabis (extract)
  T+ 0:00   oral Pharms - Mirtazapine (daily)



IMPORTANT: If the chemical has activity below 50mg it is advisable to use a suitable, human-safe solvent and dose volumetrically, since many common milligram scales are not accurate below that amount.

This report will be broken into two parts: initial dose and supplement. The initial dose was not recorded, but will be recalled with as much detail as possible at the T+04.30-05.30 mark. This statement was made before the second dose began and I plan to record the second and third dose.


T+0.00: Ingested 20 then 10 mg of the hydrochloride salt of 3-FA in distilled water, using a volumetric measurement instead of weight for improved accuracy.

T+00.18: Stimulation was noticed, although this could have been placebo.

T+00.40: It hit me as I entered my weed dealer’s car to buy some live resin, and I noticed a significant increase in mood and sociability when we discussed some of the types of thc extracts we are interested in. It was then that I became aware I was likely holding him for longer than he probably wanted to be, so I rather awkwardly said goodbye and thanked him for the delivery.

T+0.45: Music appreciation becomes clear. I am smoking some cannabis to ease some nausea I had, and am quite entertained by the book I am reading, Pihkal, by the famous psychedelic chemist Alexander Shulgin coauthored by Ann Shulgin. It is a wonderful treasure to anyone who is interested in chemistry and/or psychopharmacology. I will not use his four-point scale unless describing a psychedelic or a particularly eventful dissociative experience, but since this has entactogenic undertones, I would grudgingly give it a ++. Cannabis caused some anxiety during its offset, which gradually faded as it left my body.

T+00.45-04.20: The stimulation gradually rises and plateaus at about two hours
T+00.45-04.20: The stimulation gradually rises and plateaus at about two hours
, in which I begin to notice this isn’t quite like the stimulation of plain old amphetamine. It contains a somewhat entactogenic headspace and as with entactogens it made for visual “shimmering,” increased color vibrancy and depth, a slight increase in perceived body temperature accompanied with mild sweating, and some light intro- and outrospective thought not typically found with plain old amphetamine. Jaw tension and teeth grinding were present the whole time. It was more intense than with amphetamine, but not as intense as MDMA. Food was incredibly difficult to consume, and made for some nausea that passed with no vomiting. Ground ginger was combined with water to attempt to quell the stomach, to no avail. Time would have to pass. The nausea gave rise to anxiety, but I knew my response to eating would be unpleasant in this state of consciousness, thus the anxiety was less psychological and more physical and easily manageable (or is it just that I have experience with it?). At one point the text I was reading began to wobble slightly, similar to how I see it on LSD but with far less intensity. The visual and entactogenic effects seem to be brought out with cannabis. My theory is that, since cannabis upregulates some serotonin receptors, it makes the serotonin released by 3-FA stronger in a way, leading to a more tactile and emotional experience.

Closer to the four hour mark, I received news that a relative of someone fairly close to me was likely fatally ill, and upon reading their text, tears dropped from my eyes. I was able to access the emotion my friend had presented me with, and cried for a short moment, after which I was quite introspective. Amphetamine usually suppresses my emotional response, so this was another example of a more entactogenic effect. I thought of my younger sibling, and how they have lived a cautious life so far, and in some ways had unknowingly protected themselves against some of the evils which I had faced. I admired that innocence, and almost wished I still retained it. I began to think about everyone in my life and was able to access a deep love for all of them, including people with whom I have yet to establish solid friendships.

A trip to the bathroom mirror confirmed my suspected mydriasis, which was more intense than it would have been on the traditional amphetamine salt. I found the reflection glowing with life and pretty, while also noticing its perceived physical flaws. It was not quite how I see myself sober and especially not during the heights of my period with anorexia and body dysmorphia. This compound is notably less jittery than amphetamine, which I am pleased about.

T+04:20: 20mg supplement was taken, a bit later than intended.

T+05:40: A surge of warmth was felt in my body. So far this drug has been less paranoid than amphetamine, and feels a bit less pushy and devious than amphetamine with more music appreciation and a greater overall sense of safety. I must restate that it is a SENSE of safety, and that research chemicals are inherently more dangerous than their commonly used, controlled analogues. I will have to comment on its aftereffects later to see if they are remarkably negative, because any stimulant offset is typically ridden with strife. More on this later. Around this time I redose with another 20mg, achieving my cut off limit of 70mg on the rare occasions I plan to use this substance as it is a research chemical and therefore its neurotoxicity profile has yet to be firmly established, although it can be reasoned that it is fairly neurotoxic like the other amphetamines and MDMA, especially when used often.

T+08.40: Plateau from the two doses is pleasurable and more clear-headed than it was before. Reading more Shulgin. Will check back in when effects begin to change. It should be noted that two protein shakes and some snacks were consumed during this experiment to retain physical energy during the time at which the body is working in overdrive. One must also remember to hydrate constantly when all three of the primary neurotransmitters are being released in large quantities. Cannabis provides intense music appreciation but also seems to be quite dissociative in this state, however I am not struggling to keep a clear headspace although talking can be difficult. I am glad that this does not have the more psychotic and sinister push of Adderall (amphetamine salts).

T+10.00: The effects were steadily declining. I had no urge to redose again, knowing the risks behind redosing stimulants, especially late at night. I was exhausted, and before I fully came down I slept very lightly for about 2 hours, as the room had not been darkened for sleep yet. This is unusual, and can probably be explained by my use of the antidepressant mirtazapine, which is quite sedating for the first few hours after ingestion, and since I had recently made an increase to my dose, this side effect was more prominent than it would have been. Its sedation is not like that of benzodiazepines or opioids, but rather induces feelings of sleepiness that feel natural and not a product of a drug (which it certainly is; I depend on it for sleep).


When I awoke the following morning, I experienced some residual depersonalization and jaw clenching, but the world around me looked bright and pretty and I felt at peace. There is a bit of a lack of motivation, but significantly less anxiety than with amphetamine. I note the lack of the simulated depression that plagues people during the offset of MDMA. Kratom produces more anxiety than relief the day after, which I suspect is related to the smaller amount of dopamine available for kratom to release after yesterday’s experience. Appetite suppression continues.

I would take 3-FA again, at a higher dose, and avoid redosing. It prolongs the effects, but does not reproduce the feelings at its initial onset, and due to other risks associated with stimulants and research chemicals, redosing should be avoided.

Effects Analysis

Physical Effects
Stimulation: “Stimulation was noticed. . .”
Physical Euphoria: “A surge of warmth was felt in my body.”
Teeth Grinding: “Jaw tension and teeth grinding were present the whole time.”
Mydriasis: “A trip to the bathroom mirror confirmed my suspected mydriasis. . .”
Appetite Suppression: “Food was incredibly difficult to consume. . .”
Nausea: “ I am smoking some cannabis to ease some nausea I had. . .”

Cognitive Effects
Cognitive Euphoria: “I noticed a significant increase in mood. . .”
Anxiety: “. . .the anxiety was less psychological and more physical and easily manageable. . .”
Anxiety Suppression: “I felt at peace.”
Appetite Suppression: “Food was incredibly difficult to consume. . .”
Nausea: “ I am smoking some cannabis to ease some nausea I had. . .”

Visual Effects
Color Enhancement: “. . . it made for. . . increased color vibrancy and depth. . .”
Drifting: “At one point the text I was reading began to wobble slightly. . .”

Exp Year: 2020ExpID: 114554
Gender: Not Specified 
Age at time of experience: 19 
Published: Jul 15, 2020Views: 2,752
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