Citation: Anonymous. "A Worthwhile Aphrodisiac: An Experience with 3F-Phenmetrazine & 5-MeO-MiPT (exp113668)". Erowid.org. Oct 23, 2019. erowid.org/exp/113668
I was looking for a good, solid sex enhancer to replace MDMA, which I had been using for this propose so far. I just wanted to spend a night at home with some porn. Pretty sad, I know, but I'm mainly writing this to report to describe what happened at a very high dose of 4-fpm (about 260 mg, in this case). The only stimulant I have experience with is MDMA, which I had been using on a monthly bases for about 2 years. Before this, MDMA had been my sex drug.
Before this, MDMA had been my sex drug.
I had only taken 3-fpm once, at 30 mg before, which only gave me mild effects. All doses were measured out with a high precision digital scale (accurate to 0.1 mg). Unfortunately I didn't record the exact measurements, and so the numbers I give here are just what I remember reading off the scale.
16:30. Measured out 106 mg of 3-fpm (3-fluorophenmetrazine). Dissolved it in water and drank it immediately. Taste not too bad.
17:30. Barely feeling anything and getting impatient. Perhaps somewhat unwisely, I decide to take a large booster, plus some 5-MeO-MiPT (5-Methoxy-N-Isopropyl-N-Methyltryptamine) to add some magic.
17:35. Measured out 2 mg of 5-MeO-MiPT and 154 mg of 3-fpm. Drank both of them immediately in water with some lemon juice, since the 5-MeO-MiPT freebase doesn’t dissolve well in water.
18:00. Starting to feel something. Mood lift and my body starts to feel warm. There is also a barely perceptible “trippyness” present.
18:30. Feeling VERY good now. My heart is beating quite fast but somehow this is pleasant too. Turning my attention to the erotic.
19:00. Deeply into the erotic now. WOW this stuff is certainly living up to expectations. The 5-MeO-MiPT may be contributing minutely, but its effects are barely perceptible. I used a low dose of 5-MeO-MiPT on purpose, so there wouldn’t be visual interference and I could see things on the screen clearly. The 5-MeO-MiPT is only providing some tactile enhancement and stimulated phantasy.
19:00-11:00. I remain in this fantastic, euphoric and highly sexual state for a good 3-4 hours! It is amazing to me that the euphoria and eroticism could be maintained for so long. Every now and then there was a sudden dip in the euphoria with a “depressed” spot. But simply sitting back, taking a few deep breaths and relaxing always worked to get me back to the euphoric spot where I wanted to be.
11:30. I really didn’t want this to end, but I finally forced myself to disengage from my computer and call a friend. I was still very stimulated but don’t feel “cracked out” at all and easily pass for normal. Have a pleasant conversation.
12:30. Hung up the phone and decide that the evening must be over. Now that I am not focused on anything, I am starting to feel a comedown. My thoughts are quite depressed. I would say I feel just as depressed as with an MDMA comedown, albeit less “worn out”, it’s a purely emotional comedown. I eat some oatmeal and after a few minutes I don’t feel depressed anymore. This is something I have discovered with MDMA too: The depression from a comedown can always be remedied by some solid food. It seems like food also fixes the comedown of 3-fpm.
1:00. I still feel somewhat stimulated, especially after the food, and so I take 8 mg of the sleep medication Zopiclone.
1:45. I take another 9 mg of Zopiclone. In retrospect this may have been too much. While I fell asleep almost immediately, I woke up at around 10:30 am the next day, and I felt somewhat groggy. Otherwise I felt great though. In the afternoon of that day I even felt very happy and content.
Conclusion: Since I was specifically looking for a good sex drug to replace MDMA, I want to make some comparisons. Overall, I actually think 3-fpm has proven to be a superior substance for this purpose. I’m not sure how much 5-MeO-MiPT contributed to the aphrodisiac qualities of the experience, but I don’t think it had a huge influence. Here are come comparisons with MDMA:
Pros of 3-fpm : - Can achieve erection (albeit with some work).
- Can achieve orgasm.
- No antidiuretic effects.
- Feels more clean and purposeful.
- Significantly less sweating/overheating.
- Lasts longer.
- Less negative aftereffects.
- No nystagmus.
Cons of 3-fpm: - Somewhat less euphoric.
- Less enhancement of ability to phantasize and imagine.
- Less tactile enhancement.
- Less audio enhancement (music, etc…)
- Less empathy.
Overall, I think this is a better option for the explicit purpose of sexual enhancement. I will be using this instead of MDMA from now on, particularly because I’m also concerned about MDMA’s long-term neurotoxic effects (although one should bear in mind that 3-fpm’s neurotoxic potential has not yet been studied).
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