Citation: El_C. "High and Low: An Experience with Phenibut & Cannabis (exp111052)". Erowid.org. Oct 5, 2017. erowid.org/exp/111052
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Precursor: I am addicted to Benzodiazepines and have taken doses of such in excess of 10mg. My purchase of Phenibut was in seeking a substance that would act similarly to the high achieved by ingesting large amounts of Benzo. This was my first experience and first time ever ingesting Phenibut in any form.
T+000 Ingested 2,100mg Phenibut HCL fine crystalline. I was at work at the time and went out for a smoke break. I had pre-measured the substance expecting this to be my only dosage. Mixing the dosage into a cup of lemonade I avoided the 'bitter/salty/citrus' taste I heard that accompanies ingestion.
T+150 *2.5 hours since dosing*
Girlfriend picks me up from work. I feel a decrease in motor function though not significant enough to consider as a result of the drug. Almost like I had just taken a shot of liquor. No other noticeable effects such as decreased anxiety, euphoria, relaxation, or any sort of 'high' are achieved at this point. I am, however, feeling very talkative.
T+180 *3 hours since dosing*
Finally able to relax; immediately take a dab of 'Jack Flash' purchased from a marijuana dispensary (Colorado resident) followed quickly by a second dab. The effects of the marijuana as a potentiator are noticed immediately. Muscle relaxation sets in very quickly along with euphoria past the point marijuana alone has ever brought.
T+200 *3 hours 20 minutes since dosing*
Euphoria and relaxation are intensifying and the decrease in motor function is ever-apparent. I take another dab at this point pack a bowl of 'Dark Star' indica. Tasks such as pouring a bowl of cereal were actually somewhat difficult. I fell into the coffee table and had to catch myself when first standing. Walking to the refrigerator I found myself swaying back and forth as if I had been drinking in excess.
Walking to the refrigerator I found myself swaying back and forth as if I had been drinking in excess.
The girlfriend notices at this point and comments how she wishes that she had ingested with me since I am visibly 'fucked up.' So to my suggestion I dose her the equivalent I had taken earlier (2,100mg)
T+210 *3.5 hours since dosing*
I have achieved the 'Benzo high' I ever so desperately seek and then some. My mind is clear unlike when I ingest Benzo and the euphoria is much more noticeable. The comparison between the two is in the 'body high' I've gotten. I decided this would be a good time to re-dose because I'm not about to let this party stop. This is a mistake.
T+220 *3 hours 40 minutes since dosing*
I drop 300mg directly onto my tongue to truly experience the taste of this stuff. It's bad. Exactly as described like a salty/citrus sort of sour. Forget that route; I'm making another drink. Measure 1,800mg and mix into grape Kool-Aid which was not nearly as effective as the lemonade for eliminating that awful taste.
T+270 *4.5 hours since initial dosing*
Trying to use my blow torch to heat up my rig and take a dab I find myself swaying back and forth significantly. In an attempt to not burn my house down I focus all energy into steadying my hand; this is a difficult task. My motor function is almost completely out the window. I am stumbling and struggling to even stand up straight. The euphoria is almost as intense as I find myself laughing at nothing in particular. Constantly repeating 'I'm so fucking high' to my girlfriend she gets annoyed and tells me to get it together. I didn't realize I was doing this so I promptly apologize and continue to do it. She goes to smoke a cigarette.
T+300 *5 hours since initial dosing*
Getting pretty late (about 1am) and I've got that lethargic feel to my body. I know I could sleep at any point on this drug and have chosen not to so I could maintain the high. It's around this time I call it a night, however, when exactly I decided to go to bed was a bit of a blur. Fast forward 4 hours.
T+540 *9 hours since initial dosing*
Find myself suddenly waking up very abruptly and feeling very nauseous. Try and get out of bed to make a run for the bathroom but my legs do not follow course. I hit the ground but broke my fall with my arms enough to keep my face from slamming. I know what's coming so I army crawl to the bathroom but cannot make it in time. Vomiting begins and it's rough.
I know what's coming so I army crawl to the bathroom but cannot make it in time. Vomiting begins and it's rough.
Clean up after my mess and crawl back to bed. Despite the nausea I am still very high and even mention out-loud to myself, 'Worth it.'
T+660 *11 hours since initial dosing*
Alarm goes off to wake me up for work. I am still very intoxicated and I feel inebriated and hungover at the same time. Not good. Go to the bathroom and throw up stomach bile. I feel as though my brain is telling my body something is wrong and my body is following suite by shutting down non-essential functions. Cognitive function is impaired, muscles feel tight, very low energy. This could be a result of dehydration of lack of nutrition from vomiting all night. Either way I blame the phenibut.
T+720 *12 hours since initial dosing*
Heading into work now. I've never called in sick to any job; it's just not my style. I should absolutely not be behind the wheel of a vehicle. Not to say I'm crashing into things or my vision is swayed; rather, my reaction time is slowed. I've got that sensation where you look a direction and your vision seems to take a second to catch up.
Arriving at work my co-worker tells me I look like shit. I clock-in and go to the bathroom to throw up more bile. I guess the manager heard and she was waiting. She immediately tells me I look like shit as well. I told her the truth: That I had been throwing up since 5am and unable to keep fluids or food down. She sent me home so I crawled into bed and passed out promptly.
T+840 *14 hours since initial dosing*
Again wake up abruptly to throw up bile. I still cannot eat or drink anything at this point. It's no longer 'worth it' in my mind; I am miserable.
T+960 *16 hours since initial dosing*
The girlfriend is heading into work now and I am still bed-ridden. She feels the effects of the phenibut but not the negative side that I had experienced. I am no longer high in any sense of the word just feel like shit.
T+1200 *20 hours since initial dosing*
Well I don't feel completely normal but I'm getting there. At this point I am not sure if it's lack of food and water or the phenibut. I still cannot retain much water but I am getting some. Food is unappealing; I likely wont eat.
Conclusion: Don't overdo it. This was honestly a great high and a ton of fun until it wasn't. I should never have re-dosed, especially being my first experience. I am not so turned off that I won't try again but never in such large amount. My guess is 3grams would be a good cutoff but I'm going to start from 1.5 and work back up. The potential is absolutely there, especially with the use of xanax becoming so prevalent that illegitimate distributors are stomping on it. These presses with fentanyl in them are disturbing and I believe phenibut to be a good alternative given the price point and effect. For therapeutic effect I cannot speak on.
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