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Time to Speculate
Garlic, Ginger & 4-Ethylmethcathinone
by ImtrepidExplorer
Citation:   ImtrepidExplorer. "Time to Speculate: An Experience with Garlic, Ginger & 4-Ethylmethcathinone (exp108321)". Apr 23, 2016.

  oral Ginger (fresh)
    oral Garlic (fresh)
  200 mg oral 4-Ethylmethcathinone (powder / crystals)


I was researching into cathinones with reckless abandon... The week before this experience I took 3-MMC repeatedly all week up until, the night before.

I had tried the same dose of 4-EMC before alone, it was reminiscent of an effect I would not expect of a simple mephedrone analogue, it leaned heavily toward being a tricky stimulant psychedelic that lied between MDA and 2CP, perhaps a safer version of PMA even. Anyway, I had decided to take a lot of garlic at once, I crushed the cloves of a whole bulb and mixed with honey and olive oil, put on a spoon and swallowed, 30 minutes earlier I had several grams of raw fresh ginger as well. I was conducting some lazy research on home remedies. The garlic preparation burnt all the way down to the stomach, where it caused large amounts of pain and feverish behaviour for 45 minutes. I feeling better had found myself to be in a more relaxed state, garlic can do this.

20 Mins after I'm dosing 200mg 4-EMC, it comes on, this is more a stimulant psychedelic than an entactogen, vision is flashing like a strobe, dull slow pains course through my back, from the bones outward, to the skin, exaggerated fatigue sensations, I feel like in addition to the messy stimulant psychedelia there is a cannabinoid present, it really feels like I had thrown a cannabinoid into the mix, all my muscles wanted to be stretched, that was the most important thing to me at the time
all my muscles wanted to be stretched, that was the most important thing to me at the time
, this reminds me of tryptamines... at one point even resemblance to a 25i-NBOMe trip was there. I don't know whether the garlic and ginger affected this trip significantly or not, what I do know is the high of the 4-EMC mutated to a Rorschach of different drug experiences all in one. Maybe this stuff is ridiculously psychedelic and unique compared with straight phenylethylamines and tryptamines? or perhaps I had formed some new substances in my body? All I know is I have never experienced such a wide variety of different substance specific responses with one single thing.

I mention the Garlic and Ginger as the Garlic was definitely exerting psychoactive effects alone and perhaps the interactions of the chemicals in those two foods and the drug caused something very different to 4-EMC alone. After the strangeness my mind felt like it had temporarily lost a lot of processing power, so to speak, almost like there had been an chemical overload or flood and now I lay in its wake.

I took some N-ethylyhexdrone many hours later, which restored cognitive function to a favourable level. I had to do a report as this was so strange.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 108321
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 26 
Published: Apr 23, 2016Views: 8,707
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