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Turned Out I Wasn't Cautious Enough
Cannabis & Guarana
by Khelben
Citation:   Khelben. "Turned Out I Wasn't Cautious Enough: An Experience with Cannabis & Guarana (exp107273)". Erowid.org. Aug 28, 2016. erowid.org/exp/107273

T+ 0:00
1.55 g oral Guarana (ground / crushed)
  T+ 1:20 1.25 g oral Cannabis (cookie / food)


Edible Overdose

I first experimented with smoking Cannabis when I was around 15. It was good in general, but one time I had a panic attack with high heart rate and intense fear, which seems to be common with THC overdoses. After a couple of smokes I stopped doing it.

Fifteen years later I started smoking again. The first real dose was very intense but still nice. Then I got used to smoking and by now I can dose it pretty well in my pipe bowl. I also can manage highly psychedelic cannabis like Super Lemon Haze or Malawi 22% strains.

Then I bought an edible, a large 50g cookie from a DNM [darknet market]. The problem with DNM edible purchases is that you might not know how much Cannabis plant material they put into their stuff, and how potent it is. I was what I thought was cautious and first tried around 5g, then 10g, noticing a mild buzz at best. A common beginner's dose of oral THC is 5-10mg. This particular vendor did say that his cookie contained 0.3g hash, so at 20% potency 10gs. contained around 10mg of THC. So far, so good. This went well, and I could have tried more of that.

But then I bought another edible from another vendor. These were small dark chocolates, coming in 3 pieces per batch with a weight of around 5-6g each. I bought 6 and received 7pcs. This time the vendor didn't disclose how much hash or bud he put in there, but in terms of her personal dosage stated that 1 piece was getting her 'nicely stoned'. He also said they were very strong.

Here's my adventure with them. I spent the whole day alone.


Got up and ate 1.55g Guarana powder on an empty stomach, dissolved in water. I don't think the Guarana affected the trip much, though.


I thought I should be rather cautious and decided to eat about 1/5th of one chocolate piece, weighing 1.25g.
I thought I should be rather cautious and decided to eat about 1/5th of one chocolate piece, weighing 1.25g.
The taste of pot was very intense. At this point I'd eaten a couple of teaspoons homemade yoghurt, so my stomach was still nearly empty. There was much curiosity, a relaxed attitude but no special set or setting preparation. Then I moved into bed to watch a couple of YouTube shows and browse the net.

T+2:40 (1:20 after Cannabis edible consumption):

I feel something coming on. I'm on the THC roller coaster! So far not too special. I'm a little nervous about the dosage.


'riely stoned' is what I wrote on a piece of paper at this time. Now I knew this was going to be an intense trip. I was still pretty confident at this point; when I smoked high doses and I got into high-heartbeat-and-weird-thoughts land I could always handle them and make them just an interesting landmark on my trip. But it got stronger and stronger. I tried putting on positive psytrance music and moving about to change my set and setting, but it didn't help. At some point I had to sit down on the couch. I tried to distract myself with music and my laptop and already entered search terms like 'edible overdose' in Google, but it didn't really work. My heart was racing massively at this point and getting faster and faster. I also got an intense stone, largely paralyzing me. Moving about was possible but very undesirable.

At some point I got up again and felt really sick. I prayed to all gods who listened to stop this and was sad and annoyed about feeling so bad physically. I moved back into my bed and lied down. Closing the eyes was making it worse, and lying down wasn't exactly great but it was my only option at this point. I then experienced the peak of the panic attack, with fear, anxiety, paranoia and questions like 'what if I ate too much and will die from it?'. I was sad about all the people and my cat friend I would leave behind. Another fear was having eaten something highly potent and dangerous which the vendor mixed in there along with the THC (for whatever reason). Or what if I was one in a million people who could actually die from a THC overdose? All the popular questions you ask yourself during a THC overdose panic attack. ;-) I also worried about having to puke in my bed and not getting enough water for my parchy throat. Fortunately I could every now and then reach for my water bottle and have a swig.


The panic has largely gone away, the dizziness is leaving and I'm still alive! I'm still very stoned but out of the danger of the panic coming back and the trip getting even more intense. My body and mind need recovery now. I'm in a stoned half-sleep.


I can get back up again and move about. I'm glad it is over. I actually feel pretty good now, with the THC going back to a normal stoned level.


It turned out I wasn't cautious enough! I'm still not sure how much THC this small piece of chocolate contained. Always try to get numbers from your vendor. If you don't then be ***very*** conservative about dosing. One source who's coming from this direction recommends starting with 1g, but this is definitely too high if you don't know what's in there.

Here's a rough help if you don't know about the concentration of THC in the edible: assume 50% of the edible is plant material (which is a lot, but remember we're trying to be very conservative here!), with a potency of 15%. So for 0.1g (100mg) of edible we have 50mg of plant which at 15% potency gives us a maximum upper bound of 7.5mg of THC. So I suggest that 0.1g be your maximum starting dose if you don't know the potency. After that move on to 0.3-0.5g, then to 1g and so on.

Exp Year: 2015ExpID: 107273
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 31 
Published: Aug 28, 2016Views: 3,158
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