Smooth and Visual
2C-B, MDMA, Etizolam & Hash
Citation:   Heer Bommel. "Smooth and Visual: An Experience with 2C-B, MDMA, Etizolam & Hash (exp102306)". Erowid.org. Feb 10, 2021. erowid.org/exp/102306

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
30 mg oral 2C-B
  T+ 0:45 150 mg oral MDMA
  T+ 0:45 1 mg oral Etizolam
  T+ 1:30   smoked Cannabis - Hash
  T+ 2:30   smoked Cannabis - Hash
  T+ 3:30   smoked Cannabis - Hash
  T+ 5:00 1 mg oral Etizolam
BODY WEIGHT: 100 kg
Over the past couple of years I've explored many drugs on a regular basis. I usually do this together with a good friend of mine. Among the drugs are mushrooms, LSD, DMT, 2C-B, 4-FA, MDMA and several benzodiazepines. The usual strategy is to start by a small dose and build up the dose over a couple of months in several 'trials'. We often write down what we experience and how we think it might blend with other substances. The drugs involved we first tried all of them independent from each other and building up in dosages. For all the drugs noted in this very trip we found these the most pleasant dosages. We've tried 2C-B up to 50mg but liked it more in the range of 30-40mg. It's proberbly our favorite substance. MDMA we both never really enjoyed that much - we both experience a feeling of 'artificial' happiness, but in the 100mg-150mg range we can enjoy it combined with a psychedelic, just to give the trip a very soft but euphoric edge.

We've also used quite some benzodiazepines. We usually use it when the afterglow of psychedelics wear off. Although officially a thienodiazepine we think the experience is much like Alprazolam in the very same dosages. We also find it very smoothing during both psychedelics and MDMA. The very same goes for hash in our opinion. We like the taste of it and it gets us really relaxed and smooth. We wondered what the addition would be in a combination of MDMA & 2C-B in our favorite 'ranges'. Hence why we tried it.

T+ 0:00 30mg 2C-B Oral
T+ 0:45 150mg MDMA Oral
T+ 0:45 1mg Etizolam Oral
T+ 1:30 Hash few Hits
T+ 2:30 Hash few Hits
T+ 3:30 Hash few Hits
T+ 5:00 1mg Etizolam

We do our usual ritual. We have a really big dinner and relax afterwards. Doing the dishes while listening to music and drinking some espresso. About 2.5 or 3 hours after dinner we take our (first) substance. We prefer taking a psychedelic first and our MDMA second. This because we generally dislike the feeling of the MDMA wearing off when one is still tripping.
We prefer taking a psychedelic first and our MDMA second. This because we generally dislike the feeling of the MDMA wearing off when one is still tripping.
We both have kinda the same metabolism and start noticing the effect most of the time after 30 mins/45 mins. That's why we took the MDMA 45 minutes after, so when the 2C-B is getting near its plateau, we also get the glow of the MDMA.

Starting out we just sat in my room and took the 2C-B. We just lay back and talk about all the regular stuff in life. Nothing to special. After about 45 minutes we both noticed my (wooden) floor getting patterned, like we have seen it do alot of times. I made some tea, lit up a shisha and we dropped the MDMA and the first dose of Etizolam. We just smoked, sipped some and have the laughs we always have when 2C-B starts to kick in. It almost literally sheds an absurd light on everyday life. Work, women, everything is discussed, and especially the negatives. We literally laugh it off.

The combination of MDMA and benzodiazepines can be quite fascinating. We usually both feel a hard 'kicking in' with MDMA. Like getting fired like a rocket. With the combination it doesn't feel like getting launched at all, it feels like being on a magic carpet, floating in. The typical MDMA smile came and we felt a great sense of tranquility. We just laid back, enjoyed some Dave Brubeck and watched all the visuals 2C-B had to offer. My lights were moving on the basslines in the smooth jazz, while my wooden floor responded to the soft piano. It was a blended audio/visual orchestra with a very euphoric but mild and smooth high. We put some hash into the shisha and started smoking that as well. The smoke was coloured and it kept changing colours all the time. It also seemed to wiggle and shape on the rhythm and melodies of the music.

After we got more mellow at some point we noticed our visuals get less. This must have been after 3 hours or so. Yet, music was still fascinating us and the patterns were still there when gazing. They still responded to the music playing. We listened to some of the piano works by Chopin, Part, Satie and others. At a certain point both with our eyes closed. We both had strong CEV's, mainly geometric patterns that responded like your typical windows media player visualiser does. A bit off, but still recognisable.

At the end we both started to notice some bodily discomfort. I usually get minor neck cramps when I use 2C-B. Self-massaging with a lacrosse ball usually works to get some of the tension out of my muscles, so I did try some. My friend got some slight nausea, which is common for him when using MDMA. I bought some fresh baguettes the same afternoon with several cheeses. Although not hungry, we ate some and the taste was amazing. It helped reduce his stomach discomfort as well.

My neck on the other hand got worse. Since etizolam also has muscle-relaxant properties, and being 5 in the morning, we decided to take another etizolam. We smoked some more for about half an hour and both fell asleep in the chairs. We woke up 8 hours later, feeling very good. Both still somewhat mellow and very satisfied with the result of this combination.

It wasn't an extremely special trip, proberbly because the etizolam reduces some of the 'trippy feelings' we can get with 2C-B (and MDMA). Yet, we both agreed that music wasn't this special before, not even in high-dose 2C-B or LSD/Mushroom trips. Perhaps when you're really relaxed you can actually focus more on your audio/visual blending. Quite some trips for us are somewhat 'chaotic', this one sure wasn't. It gives less psychological feedback, perhaps, but more pure 'relaxation and enjoyment'.

Exp Year: 2013ExpID: 102306
Gender: Not Specified 
Age at time of experience: 24
Published: Feb 10, 2021Views: 1,294
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