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More Than I Expected
by ericadsg788
Citation:   ericadsg788. "More Than I Expected: An Experience with 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (exp91914)". Sep 26, 2015.

T+ 0:00
10 mg insufflated 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:30 40 mg oral 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:30 10 mg insufflated 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:00 10 mg insufflated 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:30 50 mg oral 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 3:45 20 mg oral 4-Fluoromethamphetamine (powder / crystals)


I smoke marijuana on a regular basis, usually once or twice a day. Besides that, I've indulged in ecstasy, adderall, vicodin, shrooms, kratom, 4-FA, and MDPV, all on a recreational basis.

About two hours before the experience began I had been at work. I'll admit that I was slightly irritated when I left work, working in a retail environment can have that effect on a person, but overall I had a good day and was in goods spirits. I got home around 6pm and hadn't eaten since 9:30 that morning.


My friend John arrived at my house. He wasn't going to be tripping with me, but monitoring my research.

(0:00) - John weighs out a 10mg dose. One thing that was consistent in most threads regarding 4-FMA was that this stuff shouldn't be snorted and should instead be taken orally. I decided to snort it so that I could quickly figure out what kind of dose I needed to reach the desired effects. Snorting the line is followed by an INTENSE burning. Without a doubt the most painful thing I've ever snorted.

(00:30) - I don't feel any positive or negative effects so I decide to increase my dose. I'm not ready to snort any more of it so John suggests I parachute some of it. I parachute about 40mgs and then I snort another 10mgs. The burning isn't as bad this time, but I get a nasty drip.

(01:00) I still don't feel anything euphoric so this time I decide to snort a line that's about 10mg. I didn't think the burning would be so bad the third time around. I was wrong. Not only did my left nostril feel like it was engulfed in flames the entire left side of my face was in pain. The worst part was the feeling inside of my ear. It felt like something inside of my ear was going to pop. It was well over a minute before the pain stopped. I won't be snorting this shit ever again.

(01:10) - I think I'm starting to feel a light tingling sensation in the back of my head but the feeling is so faint that I'm not sure if I'm really feeling it.

(01:30) - I'm definitely feeling a light tingling sensation mostly in my head. I'm becoming very inpatient so I swallow another 50mgs.

(02:45) - This is when some really nice effects kick in. The back of my head is tingling and I feel waves of euphoria washing over me. John wants to go chill out on the back porch. Walking from my bedroom to the back porch is when I feel the most intense effects.

(03:45) - I'm talking non-stop. I have a strong desire to be surrounded by people. This would be a great party drug. I eat another 20mgs.

(05:45) - I still feel some light tingling in my head but waves of euphoria are pretty much gone.

(06:45) - I can't keep my legs still. Every so often the my legs just twitch uncontrollably. Even though the high has pretty much worn off I'm still in a really great mood.

(07:45) - I hit the sack. There's a blur between my dreams and reality. Even though I'm pretty much sleeping at this point my hands in real life keep mimicking the things my hands are doing in the dream. I keep having this dream that I'm using my phone and I'll wake up with my hand in midair like I'm actually trying to use the phone. I don't sleep for more than 15 or 20 minutes at a time. Every time my hands start mimicking the dream I wake up. And I'm still having a hard time keeping my legs still. The twitching is worse but only seems to be affecting the lower half of my body.

(09:45) - I give up on sleep and decide to write this experience report.

(13:45) - I spend the next couple of hours staring at the tv, but not really absorbing what I'm seeing. The twitching has subsided and I'm finally able to fall asleep.

When I wake up I feel amazing. Normally I snooze my alarm two or three times but I was outta bed on the first ring feeling better than I've ever felt. I feel great until around 1 o'clock when I just crash. I can barely keep my eyes open at work, but I manage to get through my day.

I doubt the crash was related to the drug. The lack of food was what caused it. This stuff completely destroys your appetite. After work at about 7pm I realized it had been almost 36 hours since I'd eaten. I force down some chicken nuggets. And I mean it when I say force. I got absolutely no enjoyment out of eating. It takes a couple of days before my appetite to return to normal, but that was pretty much the only side effect reports it seems as though 4-FMA produces the kind of results that most people report experiencing while using 4-FA. I tried 4-FA before using 4-FMA and was pretty disappointed.

- I've had a few experiences with 4-FMA since writing this experience report and I have to say that this stuff seems to be way more potent when taken orally. Don't snort this shit. It burns like hell and produces minimal results.

- I've found that dosing 100mgs and then redosing an additional 20-40mgs once the initial dose begins to kick in produces the best effects. Its all about finding the sweet spot.

Exp Year: 2011ExpID: 91914
Gender: Female 
Age at time of experience: 19 
Published: Sep 26, 2015Views: 10,211
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