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Might Be Involved in Kidney Troubles
Amanitas - A. muscaria
by Anonymus
Citation:   Anonymus. "Might Be Involved in Kidney Troubles: An Experience with Amanitas - A. muscaria (exp87634)". May 18, 2019.

  oral Amanitas - A. muscaria (tea)


I'm living in an area where Amanita muscaria grows. I started collecting mushrooms one year ago.

I've taken various amounts several times with effects reminding me of a mix of Salvia divinorum, alcohol and San Pedro. After some strong experience which made me fall asleep quickly, I lowered the dosage and ended taking amanita tea from once every 15 days to twice a week.

Six months later, I was feeling tired all the time and had back pains from time to time. I didnt have any idea about what was causing these problems. Eventually, during summer, I had very strong pain in my back for 10 days, with a slight fever and general exhaustion. I suspected at the time that it could be linked to a kidney problem possibly caused by a diet with too much proteins. I suspected Amanita use too but without finding a direct link between trips and the occurrence of back problems. Also, I wasnt sure that it was a kidney problem, because some symptoms matched, but my urine seemed clean unlike it should in this case.

I took almost no Amanitas this summer and felt better, although no link could still be established. At the end of summer, I took a moderate dose of dried amanitas (still having a huge stock) and had back pain again the next 4 days. I started to think that Amanita was at least a factor in this problem. Then, new Amanitas started to grow at the beginning of fall and I harvested some. I dried them and eventually tried them. The effects were less alcohol-like and the body load lighter than those of the preceding year.
The effects were less alcohol-like and the body load lighter than those of the preceding year.
But I felt muscle of my back starting to harden less than one hour after ingestion. The pain was lighter at the peak of the trip. The next day, I was exhausted and the lower half of my back was very painful.

Some other factors, like an unbalanced diet and the contamination of drinking water (and of Amanitas themselves!) by agriculture chemicals could play a part but there's a now undoubtful correlation between amanita use and kidney-related back pain. I searched for info about kidney toxicity of Amanita muscaria, but found nothing except one unclear reference I didnt find again when I searched for it. I talked to a friend whose family came from Finland and he said that his mother was told by her grandmother that Amanitas were known in the Finnish popular knowledge to cause kidney problems.

When I started to have back problems, I couldnt link them to Amanita use, but with time, the relation became obvious. Now, pain lasting for a few days comes instantly with Amanita intake while it wasnt the case in the beginning.

Although Amanitas effects are very interesting (but not 'fun'), it seems better to avoid regular use. I'll certainly not take Amanitas orally again before at least one year, and maybe never.

Exp Year: 2010ExpID: 87634
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 45 
Published: May 18, 2019Views: 1,213
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