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Unexpected Visuals and Paranoia
LSD, MDMA & Mitragynine
by TherapeuticCDXX
Citation:   TherapeuticCDXX. "Unexpected Visuals and Paranoia: An Experience with LSD, MDMA & Mitragynine (exp74990)". Aug 18, 2018.

T+ 0:00
100-150 ug oral LSD (liquid)
  T+ 4:00 50 ug oral MDMA (powder / crystals)
  T+ 8:00 20-30 mg smoked Mitragynine  


Mitragynine is know to have antagonistic properties at the 5ht2 receptor. For this reason I suspected it might be a useful tool to help comedown at the end of a long LSD trip. Not only would it reduce after trip muscle pain but also help quiet the mind to bring sleep sooner.

I have several times used it to good effect this way. Other that a very slight immediate increase in visuals trip would soon subside after smoking the mitragynine as early as T=6hr.

In March of last year a friend of mine came to visit and we dosed together. One drop each of what was reputed to be "Pharmaceutical grade Sandoz LSD smuggled in from Europe". Anyway, about 4hrs in we split 100mg of rather pure mdma crystals.

At about 8hrs I was really feeling ready to sleep. So I decide it was time to kill the trip as I had in the past with some purified kratom alkaloid (97% mytragynine alkaloid extract). Upon smoking it I felt a distinct boost to the trip. I decided that was enough and went to bed.

The most intense closed eye visuals of my life set in! *Vivid* dream like moving scenes of color and activity. Places and people I knew and creatures and kingdoms I did not all in the most brilliant swirling colors. At the same time I was filled with and intense psychotic and overwhelming paranoia! I was deeply and thoroughly convinced my dear friend of several years was a federal agent sent to bust me
I was deeply and thoroughly convinced my dear friend of several years was a federal agent sent to bust me
and that any moment as I lay there the feds would come storming through my bedroom door to apprehend me.

Well eventually after about 2.5hrs of this I finally crashed and woke the next day in good spirits, paranoia and extra mostly gone.

I recently became aware that I am not the only one to notice the effect of this combo, and considering the result I was expecting compared to what I got I figured this knowledge might benefit others. ;)

Be safe and enjoy life.

Therapeutic CDXX

Exp Year: 2008ExpID: 74990
Gender: Female 
Age at time of experience: Not Given 
Published: Aug 18, 2018Views: 1,282
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