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A Classic Mistake
AMT & 2C-E
by echo
Citation:   echo. "A Classic Mistake: An Experience with AMT & 2C-E (exp41799)". Apr 4, 2005.

T+ 0:59
30 mg oral 5-MeO-AMT
  T+ 1:00 14 mg oral 2C-E
  T+ 26:00 1 tablet oral Pharms - Diazepam
  T+ 26:00 1 glass oral Alcohol - Hard
0 Hour

I took 30mg of AMT orally. I was alone in my home; a comfortable space with many distractions.

1 Hour

I made the classic mistake: I thought that since nothing had happened yet, I needed to take more drugs. At this point I was apparently sober, and have no idea how I could have been this stupid. I took 14mg of 2C-E orally. It is a substance I am familiar with and find very easy to control and enjoy.

1.5 Hours

I start to feel the onset of both psychedelics. I feel a nasty stomach cramp and think that I will need to vomit at some point.

2.5 Hours

The stomach cramps escalate to extreme gastrointestinal pain. I want to vomit, but my stomach is so knotted that I can't contract the muscles at all. I also feel a huge need to defecate, but am unable to because of gastrointestinal pain. I also become very cold and start to get waves of chills. My vision becomes altered fairly heavily, but that takes a back seat to my discomfort.

6 Hours

The gastrointestinal pain is still excruciating, and I am unable to move much. I am still very cold and put on warm pants, a sweater, winter socks, and turn the heat up to 26C (about 80F?). The entire physical unpleasantness continues to become harder to deal with, so I call a friend and we start looking into the literature to find bad combinations of the two drugs. I am only able to distract myself from the pain by concentrating on the task at hand. We find no obvious reason there would be a contraindication for the two drugs. However, AMT is an 'effective' MAOi, which is inadvisable to mix with a huge host of drugs. Unfortunately, we can find no reference to a bad combination of MAOi's with any of the hallucinogenic phenylethylamines, and our research tools run out.

9 Hours

Finally, the pain subsides, and my body slowly starts evacuating itself of all solid matter. Yuck. But thank God. I still feel uncomfortable, but less like food poisoning and more like influenza. I'm still cold, but I'm finally able to turn the heat down to my usual 21C. I remain rather jittery and unpleasantly stimulated. Around this time I realize that I have actually been seeing and hearing amazingly distorted things, with a great variety of recurring themes for several hours. It hadn't been important.

11 Hours

I am so stimulated that I need to take a long walk, so I venture outside. I take a 2 hour walk and have a fine time. My vision is still novel, but not overpowering, and my mind is alive with wonderful ideas. I was reminded of years spent in Germany as a child and the German tradition of long walks on weekends (Voltzmarch). I was in great spirits and as long as I kept walking the discomfort was slight.

26 Hours

I spent a number of long hours feeling like I had taken too much speed (which I've never done). I was completely restless, but unable to concentrate enough to play music or write. I watched a number of movies, but sitting still was hard and uncomfortable.
I ended the experience with a Valium and a glass of brandy and was able to force myself to sleep.


I slept 15 hours and awoke feeling okay.

This was easily some of the most pain I've ever felt. I was pouring sweat with cold chills for 7 hours. My insides felt I had drank a bottle of Drano. I've had food poisoning once in the Philippines, and it was horrible - but this was possibly worse.
This is a warning, these are both research chemicals, and they have not been studied throughly enough. Had I taken a large amount of Prozac with the AMT would I have started convulsing and died? I have had 'bad trips' before, they are usually mental, and not so physical. This may just have been my 'bad trip,' but I strongly warn anyone against taking this combination of drugs.

Exp Year: 2005ExpID: 41799
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given
Published: Apr 4, 2005Views: 22,845
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