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Strung Out and Frenetic
4-PrO-DMT & Ephedrine
by meluzine
Citation:   meluzine. "Strung Out and Frenetic: An Experience with 4-PrO-DMT & Ephedrine (exp116347)". Erowid.org. May 11, 2022. erowid.org/exp/116347

 
DOSE:
5 mg insufflated 4-PrO-DMT (powder / crystals)
  5 mg insufflated 4-PrO-DMT (powder / crystals)
  10 mg insufflated 4-PrO-DMT (powder / crystals)
  45 mg oral Ephedrine  
  150 mg oral Diphenhydramine (pill / tablet)

BODY WEIGHT: 125 lb


I had experience in other psilocin prodrugs and tryptamines among many other substances and was still shocked at the strength of this new drug. Normally I have time-stamps, but during this trip I couldn't even read, let alone write.

I had 2 pills that each contained at least 10mg. I emptied one capsule and tested its solubility in water, to see if insufflating could be a good ROA.

It was fairly soluble in room temp water, I evaporated the water and cut the 10mg into 2 piles, I snorted one and waited for effects, after maybe 5 minutes of placebo level mild psychoactivity, I figured I should take the other line, right after I did so the first dose must have taken effect because as soon as I sat back up I got a strong headrush. I laid back and felt waves of energy starting at my head flow down my body. I liked the feeling so I dissolved the 2nd capsules contents into some water and swallowed 45mg ephedrine with it. Now that I had some allergy medicine I could enjoy the woods.

After a short while it all hit at once and it was extreme, much stronger than I expected, thinking it would be equipotent to 4-HO-MET. It was very similar to a mix of a DXM come-up and DMT hitting. I couldn't walk straight and my arms were swaying like they were only attached and not under my control.

I danced wildly to scary Texas noise music, and then got ready to walk. At this point the initial rush had calmed down and I could act sober very easily, despite the very strong hallucinations. These hallucinations were not exactly like 4-HO-MET or other tryptamines, it was almost delirious, CEVs were close to DMT but darker and mostly shades of red and deep blue tones. They moved quickly and resembled facial structure. OEVs were almost exactly like how skilled digital artists replicate typical psychedelic visuals, which until now I always thought of as inaccurate. Textures moved and overlapped, and stalagmites grew on my ceiling.

I was nauseous and had a strong plastic-metallic-chemical taste in my mouth, I had the feeling of crystalline chemicals rushing through my body. I could walk normally for a while but randomly I would hunch and fall into a drunken stupor, but never once actually falling down.

Once I had made it into my house from my barn where I took the drug, I stopped to take a leak in my bathroom, one thing led to another and I discovered that this drug extremely amplified orgasms, and it seems the orgasm amplified the drug. I left to make my way to the woods, where I had the typical psychedelic experience complete with being even more anxious around strangers. I listened to great music and wandered around the lush valley nearing sundown in a psychedelic haze. I was frenetic and felt very unstable and jittery. I was talking to myself and making big gestures with my hands. Gravity and momentum were amplified as I hopped fences and avoided puddles. Throughout the experience I would get really weak and my legs would wobble, I'd feel a head-rush and like I lost a lot of blood, but a few seconds later I'd be back.

I would sit and think and listen to music in various sun soaked, scenic spots. The sun hitting my body was euphoric. Music was beautiful. Thinking about tragic and beautiful daydreams.

The psychotomimetic aspect of the drug was very apparent, I felt every emotion in an extreme way and had a few irrational thoughts. The biggest thought that dominated my head was that everything that could happen has already happened before in a similar way, modern tools and archetypes are analogous to those 100, 1000 years ago etc.

When I made it back on the road I was startled by a motion sensor that emitted a painful high frequency, though I was scared for a minute it also sent me into a laughing fit.

I just sat on a bench feeling peace and beauty for about half an hour.

Once I made it home and showered, I was very slightly starting to stabilize, but sleep was difficult to achieve, I was exhausted and burned out. I took 3 50mg DPH pills before I was able to rest, and I slept in till lunch the next day, but didn't feel refreshed.

Overall the trip can be summarized as intoxicating, psychotomimetic, euphoric, at times erotic, and powerful.

I absolutely learned my lesson in being patient when waiting for a drug to hit.

Exp Year: 2022ExpID: 116347
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given 
Published: May 11, 2022Views: 475
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