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Unintended Absolute Clarity
Phenibut & Amphetamines (Adderall)
by Finallyawake
Citation:   Finallyawake. "Unintended Absolute Clarity: An Experience with Phenibut & Amphetamines (Adderall) (exp115743)". Erowid.org. Sep 13, 2021. erowid.org/exp/115743

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
20 mg oral Amphetamines
  T+ 8:00   oral Amphetamines
  T+ 8:00   oral Smarts - Phenibut

BODY WEIGHT: 140 lb


This is not a recommendation of the powerful high that is obtainable from the combination of these substances in varying dosages, but rather a piece of insight to the positive and long lasting therapeutic effects of the combination. These substances are addictive and potentially dangerous. Do not take either of them without great caution. I do not recommend attempting to operate motor vehicles while on either of these substances. The beneficial lasting effects are far more profound than the high one gets from consuming these together.

To give necessary background information, I have ADHD and have been taking Ritalin and Adderall since I was diagnosed by over 8 professionals at the age of 5. It affects me in the medically intended way and I have never experienced the 'euphoria' that so many describe, so do not take this as a Combination suggestion, as it affects me completely differently. I felt that I should write of this experience because the only other information and reports I could find were not educational or informative.

Neither of these substances by themselves have these grand and specific effects.

At a friend's house I took approximately 20 mg of Adderall on top of 20mg that I had taken about 8 hours before (as prescribed). We were playing counterstrike on our laptops and my friend who did not take any went to sleep after a while ( I've never let anyone else take my medicine, especially after witnessing how it affects neurotypical individuals I have seen at house parties who abuse the medication). I played more counterstrike for a bit and noticed I wasn't feeling tired like I usually do. I had some powder phenibut on hand and decided I would try to use it to help me fall asleep. What followed was unexpected, life changing, and unforgettable.

I wish badly that I had a way to measure the dose of phenibut that I took that night but I had to eyeball it due to lack of equipment. I didn't know that I had accidentally taken the perfect amount. A few hours after dosing the phenibut I began to notice a very powerful clarity I had never experienced with either substance by itself. I usually had a hard time conveying my ideas to others and constantly made mistakes when I spoke, typically from general anxiety and symptoms of CPTSD. After my friend woke up I was able to talk to him more eloquently than I had ever spoken to anyone before. I wielded my words like a whip, saying precisely what I meant in as few words as possible. If I had a debate tournament that day, I would have greatly intimidated my opponents with how sharp and precise my speech had become.

I credit this experience with helping me find my 'voice' for lack of a better expression. I noticed that I could actually hear my own voice and it did not sound completely monotone as it had my whole life. No stuttering or backtracking over my sentences like I usually did. My voice had real tone, and I finally could convey my ideas and thoughts perfectly.
My voice had real tone, and I finally could convey my ideas and thoughts perfectly.


For the rest of the day that followed that sleepless night my overall appreciation of life was... unlocked for lack of a better term. I could really feel the sun on my skin, the wind in my hair, and hear music in a completely new and positive way. I spoke much of this to my sister after leaving that friend's house because I could finally open up and socialize in a way I had always wished that I could. I experienced enhanced appreciation for life in general.

I do not include time stamps because the effects were exactly the same and persisted from the time the phenibut kicked in until the next night. To this day (2 years later) I am able to speak with eloquence and precision that I had never known before this experience. It is an experience I have tried to obtain multiple times since then and have never been able to successfully replicate.

I write this in hopes that one day medical and mental health professionals can give this combination the attention that it deserves. It does not cure anything, and did not cure anything for me. The combination has lasting effects on the more annoying and minor symptoms of my ADHD, anxiety, etc. It's as if the combination gave me months of cognitive behavioral therapy over the span of a day and a half. It is my hope that others who suffer from various conditions can have lifelong relief from minor symptoms that affect their day to day life in the same way that I did.

Again this is not medical advice. I am not a professional but I am very experienced with the effects of drugs well known and not well known.

Exp Year: 2019ExpID: 115743
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 23 
Published: Sep 13, 2021Views: 308
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