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Very Strange, Stupid, and Intense Decision
4-HO-MET & LSD
by SpaceCowboy
Citation:   SpaceCowboy. "Very Strange, Stupid, and Intense Decision: An Experience with 4-HO-MET & LSD (exp114883)". Erowid.org. Oct 19, 2020. erowid.org/exp/114883

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
1 capsl oral 4-HO-MET (capsule)
  T+ 0:00 300 ug sublingual LSD (blotter / tab)
  T+ 0:30 1 hit vaporized 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine  

BODY WEIGHT: 180 lb


[Erowid Note: Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts. See this article on The Importance of Measured Doses.]

I'll start this off with my previous experience with psychedelics. I have done Lsd, shrooms, hbwr seeds, and some light disso use. I've done lsd many times before and the highest dose I had ever done was 1200ug(closer to 1000 due to tabs likely being lighter and a little tolerance). I've done shrooms one time at around 4-5 grams and that was very difficult but thats a story for another time. Hbwr was nothing notable and my disso use was very limited. This was my first experience with 4-ho-met.
My plan when going into this trip was to take the lsd and the 4-ho-met at the same time, and before I started to peak was planning on vaping some deschloroketamine(I found out later that this was 2-fdck so I would have felt little to no effects). I had no real deep purpose going into this trip besides wanting to have a crazy trip.
I had a problem with my scale however. Anytime I would put the powder onto the scale the reading would go crazy and not have even a somewhat accurate reading. I so f**k it and fill a size 00e capsule a little less than a quarter of the way full. I hadn't the slightest clue of how much I took at the time. I got a new scale after this trip and I'm guessing the dose was at least 50-60 mg but that is a conservative estimate.

THE TRIP!
9:45 - I ingest the pill and I put the tab under my tongue. I started my stopwatch and take a shower.

10:15 - I come back to my room and realize how messy it is. I hate tripping with a messy room because it messes with my vibe so I start to pick things up and put them out of sight till my floor seems appealing. I'm starting to become more and more confused. I pick up my vape with the "dck" in it and I take one hit and try to take another. I didn't have it in me to take another because of how intense the headspace was getting. I set my vape down and lay down. I'm sweating, cold, and feel nauseous. I'm starting to see the most intricate and intense visuals I've ever seen in my life.

There are no more time stamps because the time dilation was so pronounced and I'm sure I couldn't read it if I tried.
I'm laying down and starting to really really feel it. I felt similar to how I did on mushrooms by playing with my hands and reaching my arm in the air for minutes at a time. I'm trying to tell myself that I'm fine. I'm laughing and I'm doing all I can to keep the trip light. I was trying to submit but I didn't even know how to do that. This next part of my trip gave me chills 24 hours later when I remembered it. I had red led's in my room and I felt like a being was digging into my brain. Not physically, but how psychedelics can drill into the inner self. I'm seeing what can only be described as some sort of psychedelic carnival. It was very bright and colorful and again intricate. My mind starts to focus on a girl. She is drawn in black and white in contrast to the sea of visuals. She is curled up in a ball shaking and I sense that she was on mushrooms. My mind felt like it was circling around her and I see her face. And it was a horrific smile. One that you would see in a bad horror movie. The smile was drawn on her as well but it was stretching past her face. I had this strong feeling that I was the girl at the end of the visual. This ended and I tried my hardest to turn the red LEDs off. I eventually did after fiddling with it for a little.
I face my ceiling with the intention of riding it out like most of my trips. My walls in my peripheral vision start to fade away and so do the colors for a brief while. I was stuck in some place I never want to go back to, there was nothing and I was nothing. I felt alone and scared, I was panicking hard and somehow came back to my body in my room. I was then tossing and turning for what felt like hours upon hours. I felt like the trip would never end and I would be tripping in public the next day.

I start to feel more associated with my ego and realize I had to use the bathroom. My visuals are still going strong but I can still see. I was in the bathroom as quick as I possibly could have been in there. I come back to my room feeling fatigued as hell. I look at my stopwatch and only an hour and 45 minutes had passed since I took everything. My heart sank and I felt like it was just about to start again and I started to anticipate another wave of terror. But it never came. I was just scrolling through my phone happy as ever. I fell asleep from the fatigue in about an hour and woke up feeling almost normal.

I was very confused about the acid because I knew for a fact I didn't have bunk tabs. And I fell asleep after maybe 3 hours. It was very weird but I chalked it up to the fatigue from the 4-ho. Moral of the story is I shouldn't ever eyeball drugs. Especially super potent psychedelics.

Exp Year: 2020ExpID: 114883
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 16 
Published: Oct 19, 2020Views: 361
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