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Three Trials
Citation:   ThePoobaman. "Three Trials: An Experience with 3F-Phenmetrazine (exp113409)". Aug 5, 2019.

T+ 0:00
21 mg oral 3F-Phenmetrazine (capsule)
  T+ 0:00 1 cup oral Tea  
  T+ 4:08 1 cup oral Tea  
  T+ 4:56 6 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 24:00 20 mg oral 3F-Phenmetrazine (capsule)
  T+ 25:00 1 cup oral Tea  
  T+ 48:00 7 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 51:25 7 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
Three Trials With 3-FPM

I work an office job which involves a lot of writing under tight deadlines. Often, my ADHD makes meeting those deadlines quite difficult. I've been interested in stimulants since being prescribed methylphenidate some years ago, and I'd read about 3-FPM before acquiring some from a reputable lab supply outlet. I knew I had to try it. I have a lot of experience with drugs of all sorts, and have tried many stimulants for both recreation (overrated) and productivity. Here are my experiences so far.

Description of substance: one gram of lily white powder, slightly clumpy. Labelled 3-fluorophenmetrazine HCL.

Allergy test:

I put about two milligrams under my tongue when I first received the package, and nothing happened.

First trial (Monday):

(T+0:00) It's 9:00 a.m. Monday. I opt for a dose on the lighter side and swallow a capsule containing ~21 mg of 3-FPM, weighed out using a jewelry scale, and wash it down with tea. I have another capsule with an additional 20 mg in it in case this is too low a dose (I doubt it will be).

(T+0:11) I may be feeling something already. It could just be nervous anticipation, but my teeth are grinding and my stomach feels gassy.

(T+0:30) After an absolutely miserable bowel movement, my stomach feels better. No longer tired, and feel a bit more alert.

(T+0:52) Feel noticeably more productive. Getting plenty of work done. One (lack of) side effect I am noticing is that there is no appetite suppression
I am noticing is that there is no appetite suppression
, which for me is good since I'm a skinny guy who's trying to build muscle. In fact, I'm quite hungry. I only had cereal for breakfast and someone is microwaving something absolutely delicious smelling.

(T+2:10) Still quite productive. This stuff is good for ADHD.

(T+3:20) I just noticed I've had no caffeine besides the initial cup of tea when I got to work. This is highly unusual for me - I usually spend the first half of my day drinking lots of coffee and tea. The thought hadn't even crossed my mind until now.

(T+4:08) After eating a big lunch, I feel a bit tired. Now it's time for some tea.

(T+4:56) Feeling a little more tired, perhaps on the precipice of the comedown, I insufflate an additional 6 mg. It burns, not horribly, but enough that I am wincing and struggling to maintain composure.

(T+5:25) A bit of a dry/numb mouth. Mild muscle tension. Jittery but back to where I was a few hours ago in terms of productivity/stimulation.

(T+6:03) Still stimulated but a bit nauseous. No more muscle problems, though.

(T+8:15) I leave work still feeling rather "up," but a bit drained.

I come home and suffer no dysphoric comedown. The anhedonia often present in the offset of stimulants is basically nonexistent. In fact, I remain mildly stimulated into the evening. I have slight trouble sleeping but this is ordinary for me.

Second trial (Tuesday):

For this trial, I wanted to see if I could avoid re-dosing. One of the qualities of this compound that initially attracted me to it was its purportedly lengthy duration (up to 8 hours). While there is certainly mild physical stimulation at the 8 hour mark, the productivity and focus wears off well before then. To extend the duration of the compound and make last it until the end of the day, I took it after eating (rice, beans and sausage) at 11:00 a.m. I kept less detailed notes this time, since I was already familiar with the basics.

(T+0:00) I swallow the capsule. I am determined to not have to redose today.

(T+0:45) Usually, eating before taking something will prolong the come up, but I don't feel anything at all. This is strange.

(T+1:00) I am suddenly hit by a wave of energy. I make a cup of tea and get to work.

(T+3:30) Feeling tired again, but strangely still quite productive. How bizarre. A headache is coming on and I realize I haven't had any water in hours. I drink a little bit and feel better in about ten minutes. Probably past the peak.

(T+5:00) Beginning to come down. I have absolutely nothing to do at work, so I just leave.

(T+7:00) I come home and go to the gym, having an unusually effective workout.

No trouble sleeping that night, in fact I made it to bed earlier than usual.

Third trial (Wednesday):

Just to see how well insufflation works on its own, I insufflate around 7 mg and feel noticeably stimulated after about 15 minutes.

(T+0:55) Muscle cramps. Very productive though.

(T+0:90) Still feeling quite alert and relatively productive.

(T+3:00) Spacing off, a bit tired. It's wearing off.

(T+3:25) Take some more, about 7mg, and I'm back where I was.

I finish out the rest of the day and feel very tired upon coming home, but not dysphoric or sad. I do a small bump, perhaps 5 mg, and go to the gym.

That night I have more trouble sleeping. I feel a little tired and irritable Thursday morning, but no more tired and irritable than I ought to given how underslept I am. Thursday passes slowly, but it's okay.


This compound is useful for ADHD and productivity. It has typical amphetamine-like stimulant effects without many of the side effects. It has minimal comedown and minimal euphoria. It is the ideal stimulant for focus, in my limited experience, and one of the best I have tried for this purpose.

I would estimate the duration of mental stimulation to be around four hours if insufflated and six hours if taken orally. Physically stimulation lasts a good few hours longer than that. An effective (non-recreational) dose, with my minimal tolerance to stimulants, is 20-30 mg orally and 5-10 mg insufflated.

The main bothersome side effect, muscle tension, could probably be eliminated with a magnesium supplement such as magnesium citrate. Muscle tension appears to be worse with insufflation.
Muscle tension appears to be worse with insufflation.
Other side effects I noticed were headache, nausea and increased intestinal motility. These are relatively mild compared to other stimulants.

I will not be taking this every day since it is poorly researched, but it seems to be a supremely productive and functional substance. Another reason not to take it every day is, as I realize now, it seems to have some cumulative effects. Using it later in the day (basically any time past lunch) appears to cause sleeping difficulties, which get worse with repeated daily use. Thursday (today) was a welcome break, and while I'm less productive, I feel physically better and ready for a good night's sleep.

Stay safe.

Exp Year: 2019ExpID: 113409
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 22
Published: Aug 5, 2019Views: 4,326
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