I Could Not Sit Still
Unknown (sold as MDMA) & Caffeine
by Carlos
Citation:   Carlos. "I Could Not Sit Still: An Experience with Unknown (sold as MDMA) & Caffeine (exp110974)". Erowid.org. Jan 23, 2019. erowid.org/exp/110974

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
210 mg oral Bad/Suspect Ecstasy (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:00 105 mg oral Bad/Suspect Ecstasy (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:20     Nicotine  
  T+ 0:00   repeated oral Caffeine (liquid)

BODY WEIGHT: 230 lb


[Erowid Note: The substance(s) in this report is not properly identified. Although the report is included in the collection, the substance might be something other than the author believed it to be.]

T0+00 I took 210mg orally, via parachute.
T1+00 I felt the effects building up, so I redosed at 105mg orally
T1+20 Felt intense effects. Utilized Nicotine, Menthol Inhaler, bright lights and loud music to boost.
T1+45 Peaking. Felt incredible. Very intense, yet just shy of what I expected out of MDMA. The EDM show went on for another 6 hours after this.
T4+00 Peak has not subsided, notice smaller effects from tools.
T6+00 Peak still present. Lost track of time. Did not stop moving for a second.
T8+00 Peak present. Very worried. Clearly not MDMA.
T10+00 Rode home with a designated driver who became very agitated because I could not sit still. A bit of food helped. Extreme thirst present all night
T16+00 intensity begins to fade, sleep still not an option
T27+00 exhaustion begins

My brother was sold this as MDMA crystals. I did not test it, regrettably so. It had a mostly white crystalline form, which was a bit lighter than MDMA. So, I looked up some pictures of MDMA crystals, and one or two were similar, plus I had a show coming up, so I made a poor decision.

I'm a hefty guy so I took 210mg initially, then 105mg an hour later, thinking it was MDMA crystals.
I'm a hefty guy so I took 210mg initially, then 105mg an hour later, thinking it was MDMA crystals.
My brother weighs 135lbs and took 110mg initially and redosed at 70mg. We treated the experience as we would have in any rave atmosphere; however, we had energy like never before, and after the fifth hour hit and we were still jumping like crazed lunatics, I should have realized it. We had drank our fair share of energy drinks at the show, after all. When 8 hours hit, I was certain. At first paranoia set in for a brief second…did I take Methamphetamine? I don't know the doses. I don't know anything about meth, save from movies. I certainly did not want that. Were we going to be okay?

I can best describe it as Methamphetamine-style high with ample serotonergic effects. Like MDMA at 70% power (which is why seller called it that) plus a long lasting up stimulant. After some testing we realized we had MDPT.

Pros:
Highly potent at low dose. We took way too much, unknowingly.
Slightly weaker than MDMA, almost equal in intensity to MA
Endless energy and borderline MDMA style continuous peak
Everything that increases MDMA experience increases this experience equally
Legal

Cons:
Being sold as MDMA
Highly untested, Unknown side effects
Effects 24hr+
Dosages similar to MDMA can lead to unwanted experiences
Information about RC almost non-existent.

Summary: I'm not a fan. The intensity vs length experience doesn't suit my lifestyle. I much prefer a more intense experience in a shorter window, and then move on with my life. My real concern is the lack of data. I could see this being a pleasant substitute for other stimulants, but I love sleep too much. Test your substances!

Northeast, USA

Exp Year: 2017ExpID: 110974
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given 
Published: Jan 23, 2019Views: 819
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