Citation: Pleb. "Interesting to Say the Least: An Experience with Methiopropamine (exp110473)". Erowid.org. Jun 22, 2017. erowid.org/exp/110473
For clarification my substance 'use' over the past two years has been inexistent. However, the substances I will list here are things I used years ago. Here's a quick list of things I've experienced:
LSD,1p-LSD,Shrooms,Opiates(all shapes and sizes),(meth)amphetamine(also various 'medical' amphetamines),Ketamine,San Pedro(Mescaline Extract),Tobacco,cocaine, and I'm sure there are more but you get the picture.
I did not weigh out anything before use in this experience report and I apologize for that in advance. (WARNING: Eyeballing substances is extremely dangerous and not recommended.)
Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts.
See this article on The Importance of Measured Doses.]
The only thing I know for sure is that the total amount of substance used was approx. 575mg of MPA (Methiopropamine). I have calculated this amount based on the amount of MPA I had left the following day. Also, all times are approximate excluding the onset durations I discuss. I do strongly believe I was very impatient when considering the substance's effects between re-doses in this experience report. I do not condone attempting to replicate this experience per the dosage I was taking. I believe I took too much and will be aiming for my 'comfort zone' as mentioned in this report if I decide to use this substance again. Thank you for your consideration. Enjoy.
I had recently ordered 1000mg of MPA from a reputable vendor and was pretty stoked to try it. I received a notification that the package was available for pick-up so I did what any logical substance enthusiast would do. I took my lunch break at work, raced to the post office, picked up the package, and raced home. I had an hour lunch. So I was sitting with about 30 minutes until I needed to head back. This is where it all began...
0:00 - I ripped open my package and procured the MPA. I took it over to my desk, grabbed a card from my wallet, and dipped into the bag twice. I created two thin inch long lines, approx. 100mg total, insufflated one (50mg) and left the other because I didn't want to over do it (gotta love work). It burned pretty bad and tasted very chem-like. Not as bad as Meth but much worse than Ketamine and Cocaine (neither of which really burn at all in my opinion).
0:05 - I feel placebo and am hesitant to leave for work not knowing how intense it may make me feel.
0:10 - I begin to feel warm, in a temperate sense. My mind is racing as I'm getting into my car. The feeling is far from over bearing. A relaxing amphetamine-like buzz with the slightest bit of euphoria. I also feel a high level of alertness and random thoughts running through my head. Work is a ten minute drive.
0:15 - I'm having no difficulty driving and feel as if I may insufflated too little. The mild feeling of euphoria merely tickled the feeling I was looking for. My heart rate is slightly increased and my mind is still all over the place.
0:20 - I arrive at work, the feeling from 0:10 to 0:20 was exactly the same. I am becoming more disappointed that I had not insufflated the other line.
1:30 - I have now noticed the effects completely subsiding and I'm just my normal self. A bit excited to do more MPA, but that's my 'bored and don't have a life' talking versus feeling the need to re-dose.
5:00 - Effects are most definitely gone without a trace. I'm leaving work now, about to get gas, and then heading straight home. The only thing I do notice the MPA did was kill my appetite. On top of skipping breakfast, it was now 5:00PM and I am not the least bit hungry.
5:30 - I walk to my desk, lay out another line beside the original one I had left behind and insufflated both of them (approx. 100mg). The burn was no less than the first time, I used both of my nostrils (one per line) then laid down on my bed.
5:45 - I notice the same effect from the first line with little difference. I walk back to my desk and lay out another two lines and insufflated both (approx. 100mg).
6:00 - I have now found my comfort zone for MPA(~150mg). The euphoria is, again, not over bearing but quite subtle and relaxing. My heartrate has now increased significantly and my mind is racing. A mate of mine tagged me in a video on the internet so I checked it out. The significance of that video is quite odd. Upon seeing an attractive female doing something mildly sexual, I felt very aroused. Much more than usual about something so minimal. This (it gets weird) prompted me to masturbate. To which I learned I am very unable. But still, very aroused, more so mentally than physically.
6:45 - The effects of the MPA have neither increased nor decreased, I however have the urge to re-dose. So I will. One line, a little thicker than my original lines, insufflated (75mg). The burn is still annoying but I've gotten used to it at this point. After doing the line I immediately get into the shower.
6:50 - I notice the onset from this dose was faster than the others. I feel good. The euphoria was coming in waves that felt glorious. My heart rate was increased and it feels exhilarating to be alive. The water in the shower felt normal but I did take it hotter than usual. Again, none of these feelings are too much and I still found myself longing for more MPA..
7:05 - I'm excited to do more. I didn't notice any exaggerated feeling of being cold with the air conditioner on which is unusual coming out of the shower. I'm dry now, time for two more lines. Thin like the originals. insufflated both(100mg). Lay on the bed. (It becomes a routine).
7:10 - I feel as if I may have stepped/completely jumped over my comfort zone. By no means do I feel anything negative. I feel great. And the previous two lines only amplified the high. I just question myself why.. Why did you need more, you felt fine... I quickly change my train of thought as it made me feel sad. The sadness was exaggerated as were most of my basic emotions at this point. I'm slightly overwhelmed.
7:20 - Girlfriend calls. She doesn't know I'm on MPA (don't judge me) and I actually had no trouble hiding it. I noticed, upon trying to indulge in conversation, my throat was rasp and dry. Oher than that I found very few moments of awkwardness (and if any they were short lived). I also find myself being very empathetic to the situations she is explaining to me.
8:20 - Off the phone with my girl and am feeling that the effects of the MPA have began to fade. I don't know if it's the concentration I had to apply to my conversation on the phone or if it's the actual substance fading. For now, I will ignore my immediate consideration and proceed to re-dose.
8:22 - One line, inch long, thick. insufflated (75mg). Burn is more bearable. Lay back in bed.
8:30 - My mood is back to where it was, if not more intense. I guess distracting myself with the phone conversation kept my mind off how high I was. I feel good. My hands have gotten a bit clammy and my pupils are now dilated. I feel as if there is a thin film of oil developing over my skin. I'm far from dissatisfied, I'm just overwhelmed and concerned with myself because I still crave more MPA. Again, the exaggerated emotions kick in and I feel guilty for criticizing my actions and thoughts. The desire to re-dose is not as bad as a cocaine craving between lines. I just feel acute fear of coming down between my waves of euphoria and to maintain said euphoria, I want more.
9:30 - The feelings are beginning to subside again, at least that's what I've convinced myself.. One line. Inch long. Thick. Insufflated(75mg). Burn felt pretty bad on his one. Bed.
9:35 - The onset was still quick. I feel immediately relived that I regained the wonderful level of euphoria I longed for. But I can't help but question my own behaviors at this point. I feel stuck. I wasn't doing anything amphetamine related like cleaning or picking at something. Among the typical wired/alertness and racing thoughts you feel from other amphetamines, I simply feel a substantial level of euphoria, increased heart rate, throat beginning to become sore, and still very sexually aroused. The past ~4.5 hours have literally been spent laying in my bed. I got home and did nothing. I feel unproductive and a little concerned that this was going to turn into an all night deal. I'm making the decision to throw in the towel and stop using MPA for the night.
10:30 - I've been playing games since my last update and it's distracted me from the feeling of the MPA fading. I feel a lot more wired coming down and I do believe this is going to keep me up for quite some time.
12:00 - I only thought the feeling of the MPA had faded. I seemed to have gotten down to a base level 'high', if you will, and I still feel slight waves of euphoria. I haven't really had the urge to redose. I've laid down now and am hoping to get some sleep. Still, at this point, I feel very aroused. It's the only feeling that hasn't faded at all. Still unable to masturbate.
15:00 - Since the last update I have literally gotten lost on a google search rampage. The feelings have fallen below the base level. I'm still wired, not sleepy at all, and sexually frustrated.
19:00 - I feel lingering effects from the MPA that I can compare to an LSD afterglow. I'm slightly wired still and desperately trying to go to sleep. Throat is full blown sore and I have have a slight headache.
~20:00 - I fall asleep.
Onset Experienced: 5-10 minutes after insufflation.
Total MPA Used: 575mg (50mg and 75mg lines throughout the experience)
I woke hours later ~2:00pm with a slight headache and a sore throat. All effects other than those are gone. I no longer feel the MPA excluding the effect it has had on my appetite.
Overall, MPA was an interesting substance. I feel as if it is not a good substitute for any substance I have experienced thus far. Despite being a derivative of Methamphetamine by structure, I would still deem fairly different from Meth and other prescription amphetamines. Noting that I bought 1000mg of the substance, I still have approx. 425mg left. With that being said I will be using it again in the near future (comfort zone!!). I will not be going out of my way to purchase it again unless prompted by a friend or something of that sort. It seems like it could cause some trouble if brought into my life on a regular basis considering it's noticeable acute addicting qualities. The slight headache, sore throat, and desire to re-dose so often are the only immediate cons I noticed. Other than that, MPA has loads of value for recreational use (in moderation and my opinion of course). Thanks for taking the time to read my report. Expect more!
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