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Like I Had a New Option
by Guru
Citation:   Guru. "Like I Had a New Option: An Experience with 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (exp109522)". Dec 12, 2016.

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25 mg insufflated 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:00 25 mg insufflated 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:50 25 mg insufflated 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:30 12.5 mg insufflated 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine (powder / crystals)


First Steps With 2F-Ket

2-Fluoro-Deschloroketamine, also known as 2FDCK, 2F-Ketamine, 2F-Deschloroketamine, 2'-Oxo-PCM, and probably a few other things, is a wonderful and amazing chemical, an arylcyclohexylamine, NMDA receptor agonist, and dissociative anesthetic, the same type of drug as ketamine. From here on out I will refer to it as '2F-DCK' for simplicity.

Molecularly speaking, 2F-DCK is basically a ketamine molecule with the chloride group at the 2 position replaced by a fluorine group, hence the name '2-Fluoro'-'deschloro'ketamine. 2F-DCK is reported by those experienced with ketamine to be essentially identical to ketamine, for the most part, with only two real differences. The first difference being that it's much more difficult to reach a 'hole' state with 2F-DCK, and it takes longer to kick in than ketamine does. This author hasn't had any experiences with ketamine and cannot speak personally to the assertion of the similarity between K and 2F-DCK. 2F-DCK is currently (November of 2016) not scheduled in the US, and is perfectly legal to purchase and possess for research purposes. Plenty of information about it can be found online in various forums and websites.

This is a report of my first experiences with 2F-DCK. Both of these happened in my apartment, at night, alone.

The first time I decided to ingest 2F-DCK was in early November of 2016. On that night I simply did an allergy test of 1mg sublingually to make sure I hadn't accidentally received a chemical active in the single-milligram or sub-milligram dose range. All went well and one hour later no effects were felt from the 1mg allergy test, so I proceeded to insufflate a 10mg line. Very little of anything was felt from 10mg, but I did feel a little something hard to describe, it may have even been placebo effects. I waited approximately one week before proceeding with my trials.

My second time taking 2F-DCK was a pretty good jump into the waters approximately one week (eight days) after the previous allergy test. I was in a relatively good mood by my standards, though I was profoundly depressed by any normal standards, but my lifelong treatment-resistant depression was part of why I ordered this chemical in the first place.

I removed my scale from its case, adjusted the feet so the scale was perfectly level according to the built-in bubble level, and I proceeded to measure out two separate quantities of 50mg each on weighing paper.
I scraped the piles off of the weighing paper onto a small insufflation-mirror, and I proceeded to cut the two piles into quarters as accurately as I could. Each pile should have an approximate 12.5mg each, or anywhere from 10 to 15mg. I planned to take the entire 100mg that night so small, approximate piles were okay.

The first line I did was two of the small piles, approximately 25mg into my left nostril. The 2F-DCK didn't burn but it wasn't exactly comfortable either, and it tasted pretty bad. The fine powder shot into the back of my throat and I made a mental note to insufflate it more gently next time.
I made a mental note to insufflate it more gently next time.
I sat and waited until I began to feel some effects creeping in which took almost exactly ten minutes.

T+00:10:00 - I felt a bit excited about what was coming but the overall feeling I had was calmness. I also felt a bit anesthetized with no apparent dissociation at this low of a dose. I proceeded to insufflate another 25mg into my right nostril to bring the total dose to 50mg over the course of 10 minutes.

T+00:20:00 - the second 25mg had kicked in and it felt just like the first dose only intensified. Still no apparent dissociation, and a slight but noticeable lack in somatosensory input if I concentrated on my body and what it felt like. I got distracted with what I was watching for around 30 minutes after that and didn't take any more over that short period.

T+00:50:00 - I insufflated a further 25mg, bringing the total dose to 75mg over the course of 50 minutes.

T+01:00:00 - I felt pretty great. My vision was a little weird, the image on my flatscreen TV appeared to somehow have a more 3-dimensional quality to it. My TV is not a 3D TV. I stood up to test how movements felt and I was surprised to find how easy it was to move my body! Being someone who's always profoundly depressed, I have a relentless fatigue in my muscles 100% of the time and I liken it to feeling like I'm always walking underwater. At this time I was free of that sensation, and it almost felt like I was supported by something. This was an incredible feeling. I can't even put it into words how impactful it was. My thoughts were still clear and regulated as I stood there in front of my couch, lifting my legs, moving my arms around like a weirdo, testing out this newfound sense of ease in movement. I didn't feel my depression or anxiety the way I usually do- I can only describe it as if it was lessened in intensity by around 50%, and as if someone else was holding on to it for me temporarily but that I still knew it existed and it was mine. This is extremely hard to put into words. I could feel it but I was disconnected from it. I have had a similar effect from sub-gram doses of psilocybin mushrooms.

T+01:10:00 - I was feeling some slight dissociation and very noticeable physical sensation of anesthesia. I poked my arms with a sharp pencil and awed at the lack of sensation it provided. My knee reflexes were still present but felt lessened. The 3-hour podcast I was watching was especially hilarious, as I felt the crushing and oppressive burden of 28 years of nonstop suicidal depression had been temporarily lifted off of my shoulders, and laughing came easily to me, something that is extremely unusual for me. I cannot begin to tell you how big a deal this was to me.

T+01:25:00 - I looked at the two remaining 12.5mg lines on my mirror and debated putting them back into the bag to save for later. I wanted to take them both and finish what I set out to do, but as I took a sip of my water I realized that cognitively I was dissociating a bit more than I thought. As I felt the water in my mouth it almost felt like my mouth wasn't 'in' my head where it should be, but like it was actually several inches in front of my nose. This was a more mental sort of 'thought dissociation' and less of a physical sensation, I suppose, and it's difficult for me to really describe that distinction any better. As a teenager I took DXM by the gram, and DXM is 'much' more hardcore and dissociating than 2F-DCK, so I thought I might just be missing some of the dissociative effects of this wonderful substance because I remembered the state of dissociation being far more extreme.

T+01:30:00 - I decided to insufflate one of the two remaining lines, bringing my total dose to approximately 87-88mg in a window of 1.5 hours. I've heard and read people say things like 'at this dose I think I could've withstood surgery,' and that's the feeling I was getting. The anesthesia was pretty strong, but not frighteningly so by any stretch. I did begin to wonder if I should put the last 12.5mg line back into the bag and just call it a night, and I decided it would do more for me on another day than it would at the point I was currently at. The last bump/line went back into the bag.

T+02:00:00 - Very light 'mental' dissociation still, anesthetic feeling has lowered just a little bit but for the most part it's sticking with me, and my body still feels very easy to move around. These same effects lasted quite a while as these 2F-DCK has the same kind of 'legs' as Deschloroketamine does for me. They both last quite a while, but it's not uncomfortable how long they last. It's just right, I think.

T+3:00:00 - It's now about 4am and I'm getting a bit tired, so I go lie down in bed. Sleep came very easily after 2F-DCK, completely opposite to my past DXM experiences where I found it impossible to sleep.

I slept for a full eight hours and woke up feeling completely normal with absolutely no trace of a hangover, but I had a sense of positivity that I could choose to tune into if I liked. It wasn't like with psychedelics where I feel reborn and renewed, and I could easily have let myself fall back into depression, but it was like I had a new option, like depression and sadness wasn't the one and only thing I could even comprehend.
it was like I had a new option, like depression and sadness wasn't the one and only thing I could even comprehend.
I could actually decide to find a positive spin for things and choose to see a silver lining. This extra option lasted for several days, and as I write this report it is one week after the fact and I still have some of that sense of a new positive option of perspective, but I do feel as if the proverbial door to that new option is slowly closing in front of me. I will have to revisit this substance again after the positivity wears off, and I will most likely take a larger dose in one go instead of splitting it up into smaller lines. I think I would've benefitted much more from a single large dose than several small doses amounting to one large dose spread out over several hours.

I also plan to try this chemical via intramuscular injection and sublingual administration. I've heard that sublingual is the way to go with these ketamine analogues but the taste is pretty bad and I'm not sure if I wanna go that route.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 109522
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 29 
Published: Dec 12, 2016Views: 29,058
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