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A Worthy Adventure
Methoxphenidine & 3F-Phenmetrazine
by SomeGuy
Citation:   SomeGuy. "A Worthy Adventure: An Experience with Methoxphenidine & 3F-Phenmetrazine (exp106320)". Erowid.org. Jul 25, 2015. erowid.org/exp/106320

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
40 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:00 40 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:00 20 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:00 100 mg oral Methoxphenidine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:50 100 mg oral Methoxphenidine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:50 20 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 4:00 100 mg oral Methoxphenidine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 4:00 20 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:00   repeated insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)

BODY WEIGHT: 190 lb


Previous experience: Lots of ketamine, more ketamine, cocaine, methamphetamine, MDMA, 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E, 2C-T-7, 25B-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, nitrous, GHB, weed, MXE, mushrooms, aMT, methylone, mephedrone, LSD, opiates, 5-MeO-DiPT, EPH, MPH, adderall, poppers, DMT, 4-AcO-DMT, DXM, MDA, 5-MeO-DALT, salvia, adrafinil and probably some other stuff I forgot.

I consider myself a very experienced drug user and am very in touch with my body. I am physically and mentally fit (for the most part) and even though this was my first time with both of these substances, I knew what to expect based on reports from others and from my own knowledge of myself. However, this doesn't mean I'm special in any way and proper precautions should be taken before ingesting unknown substances.

The night started at my friends place.

T+0:00 - Initial eyeballed 40mg key bump of 3-FPM (Ended up being very accurate. I measured 40mg later in the evening and the amount I eyeballed was identical to the measured 40 mg).

[Erowid Note: Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts. See this article on The Importance of Measured Doses.]

T+0:05 - Hints of stimulation accumulate over time.

T+0:15 - Stimulated. Feels like I shotgunned an energy drink. Very heady stimulation. Slightly uncomfortable with notable amounts of anxiety (I am prone to anxiety on stimulants).

T+0:30 - Same stimulation. Conversation flows as it would as if I were sober. Not feeling particularly chatty. I wanted to be alone actually.

T+0:45 - I go home so I can experiment in solitude.

T+1:00 - Measure out a 40mg bump of 3-FPM.

T+1:10 - Same stimulation as the first bump. Slightly uncomfortable and accompanied by a mild headache which subsides after I rinse my nose with water.

T+1:45 - Anxiety is overwhelming. Conversation on the phone is unenjoyable and mundane. Facebook and texting however isn't quite so bad. Thoughts are scattered. Feels as if I drank 4 cups of coffee without a proper sleep.

T+2:00 - Now at home by myself. Being the idiot that I am, I decide to add some MXP (2-MeO-Diphenidine) to the mix and measure a 100mg oral dose for myself to go along with a 20 mg bump of 3-FPM.

T+2:50 - No signs of any dissociation from the 100mg of MXP so I pop another 100mg along with a 20mg bump of 3-FPM again.

T+3:00 - I notice that the 20mg bumps of 3-FPM are actually more enjoyable than the 40mg bumps. The 20mg bumps create a nice boost and mental clarity as opposed to the scatter brain feeling that the 40mg bumps gave me.

T+4:00 - Still hardly any sign of dissociation so I add another 100mg of MXP to the mix (300mg total) along with another 20mg bump of 3-FPM.

T+4:30 - The MXP does its work. The dissociation comes on slowly and gently and eases out the tension that the 3-FPM put on my head. The dissociation is different than that of ketamine or MXE. It feels very controlled at first and is very enjoyable. Music starts to sound fulfilling and takes over my world. Chatting with friends on facebook is doable and enjoyable, but typing is difficult.

T+5:00ish - I'm certain the third 100mg dose comes into effect and I lose control of my thoughts. Everything is awesome but I have no goal and start doing things and do not know why. However, all the things I do are awesome (in my mind) and everything feels like it has purpose. I robotically start changing clothes as if I'm going to a club or to party. I have the urge to go longboard but don't know how to go about doing so as my thoughts don't arrange themselves into meaningful actions but at the same time I am somehow able pee and use my computer to listen to music on soundcloud. I may have done another 20mg bump of 3-FPM somewhere in there but it's tough to say.

T+5:30ish - My train of thought is non existent. I am a robot. I do things just because they need to be done. I can't tell myself to do something and do it because my body is on auto pilot and does what it wants. Everything is awesome. Music is awesome. My belongings are awesome. Everything is awesome. I don't know how else to say this as this is just what happens when I get into a dissociative hole. I feel like I'm the shit and nothing can stop me. I greatly enjoy the feeling. It is different than ketamine and MXE. It feeels more controlled almost as opposed to ketamines tendency to topple reality.

T+6:30-7:30 - I am able to compose myself enough to go for a longboarding adventure. It is 4:30 in the morning and the sun was rising through the clouds and making a picture perfect adventure. I was still in the robotic autopilot mode for the first hour or so and don't quite understand how I was able to longboard, but it just worked. I brought the 3-FPM with me and did three small bumps throughout the two hour adventure and it was nothing short of spectacular. The effects of the MXP were very present throughout the adventure and the bumps of the 3-FPM kept my energy going along with a stop at a local corner store for some Gatorade.

All in all, I had a truly fantastic experience. The 3-FPM by itself at first was very unenjoyable but the MXP made the night an experience to remember. I wasn't expecting anything from the night but I thoroughly enjoyed the MXP experience. I feel that the 200mg would have been a nice experience without being overwhelming but don't regret taking the extra 100mg.

Exp Year: 2015ExpID: 106320
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 25 
Published: Jul 25, 2015Views: 13,416
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