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Positive And Negative Sedation
Heroin & Ketamine
by ProphecyPaul
Citation:   ProphecyPaul. "Positive And Negative Sedation: An Experience with Heroin & Ketamine (exp105612)". Erowid.org. Dec 9, 2015. erowid.org/exp/105612

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
2 lines insufflated Heroin (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:15 1 bump insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:45 1 bump insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)

BODY WEIGHT: 135 lb


Before I get to the report, I would like everyone to know about how I came about using this combination. The main reason being I was an opiate addict using mostly heroin for around 3 or 4 years. At the time of the report I was deep in my addiction and continued to be addicted a few years after. Although I may use a bag everyone now and then in my current lifestyle, I try to use other less addictive drugs when I can, because of the hold opiates used to have on my brain. So, I had read on various forums and discussions how ketamine is a drug that can possibly increase the effects of opiates because it in some way lowers the user's tolerance to opiates. I was extremely intrigued by this because those who enjoy drugs such as heroin know how good they can make you feel. Increasing that warm high was something I was always looking to do.

Getting my hands on the heroin was the easy part. Where I live, all it takes is a 20 or 30 minute drive to the city. I took one of these trips, picking up a total of 5 bags of heroin. Each bag usually contains anywhere from 100mg to 150mg in my experience. The ketamine I got my hands on the morning after I got my dope. I have a buddy that we can call Jr. The best way to describe Jr would be a drug dealer who sells drugs that are less common to sell. Jr always had the best drugs if you needed something that wasn't weed, cocaine, heroin and so on. He was more of a MDMA, research chemical, ketamine dealer if you get where I'm going. To my advantage, Jr is also a ketamine addict. So finding the ketamine obviously was pretty easy. I bought a .5 from Jr, who told me it wasn't the best K he had, but said it was still 'pretty flame' shit. Pretty flame is a common phrase used by Jr. So I left happy that I got some ketamine and went home to prepare for my little combination trial.

At this point, I only had one bag of heroin remaining, about 150mg, and my half gram of ketamine. I was badly hungover so my stomach was already off, my head was a little off also. The night before I had done a bad thing that I usually don't do. I used 4/5 bags I had and drank whiskey on top of that. Needless to say the next day was probably not the best day to try this combo but that wasn't stopping me.

T:00:00 I pour out a bag of heroin that is about 150mg. The stamp read 'White Shark' and had a little picture of a shark on it. It was in a blue wax bag double sealed. I chopped it up nice making a nice line for myself, as I knew these were pretty good bags, which I had tested the night before. I proceeded to sniff the line doing about half the line in one nostril and the other half in my other nostril.

T:00:15 About 15 minutes of just sitting in my room, the effects of the heroin are pretty nice like usual. I was feeling nice and warm, much more acceptance of life inside my head. I had that nice opiate euphoria circulating in my shoulders, my neck and behind my eyes. As my pupils dilated and I felt like I was nearing the top of my euphoria, I grabbed the bag of ketamine that Jr sold me that morning. I took a key from my dresser and brought a nice bump of Ketamine consisting of around 75mg. I snorted this into one nostril, as I did this I tasted a little leftover heroin drop down my throat in combination with the ketamine. There was a tiny burn but pretty much nothing.

T:00:25 After snorting the ketamine I am starting to feel the euphoria of the heroin increase. The warmth feels fuzzier and tingly in a way. My eyes and head became heavier. I could feel this becoming a telltale sign my nod was going to be harder than usual. The warmth that was in my shoulders and neck was being spread more than the heroin would have itself at the amount I ingested. My happiness increases as well as my tiredness. My entire body is in rather pleasant tingle, very much in my head and arms. I feel sedated and relaxed but unable to focus. Only 150mg of heroin normally wouldn't have made me feel so warm and fuzzy as I did at this point.

T:00:30 My stomach rumbles a little bit with a slight nausea approaching. This reminded me that through my excitement in this experiment, I had forgotten the hangover I was enduring.
T:00:30 My stomach rumbles a little bit with a slight nausea approaching. This reminded me that through my excitement in this experiment, I had forgotten the hangover I was enduring.
My head was now heavy and my eyes went in and out of focus. This is when I realized the ketamine had me nodding off a single bag of heroin. Now I was definitely certain that the ketamine had an impact on the euphoria and other effects of the heroin. The buzz was much stronger but I wouldn't compare it to doing another bag of heroin. Instead I would say that the ketamine makes the effects warmer and heavier.

T:00:45 Now I am feeling the dissociative effects of the ketamine but much of its normal effects are overpowered by the heroin. The effect I can still distinguish is my slightly blurred vision. The ketamine was also being increased by the heroin. So they were definitely fueling each other in some ways. At this point I reach for the bag of ketamine in search for a little more experimenting. I grab my key and get a smaller bump of ketamine, this time only about 25mg. I snort it and don't really feel it go up. But just as I snort I also feel nausea becoming more irritated within my stomach.

T:00:55 I now am forgetting about the positive effects of the heroin or they have completely worn off because a little before an hour into the experience I am being overwhelmed with nausea. I try closing my eyes and lying down but it is no use. My euphoria is gone but at this point the ketamine has made walking and getting to the bathroom a little bit more difficult than usual. Although I would normally enjoy the high, my body is telling me to get to the toilet. Once there I gag a few times and finally vomit around three or four times. I was left with that relief of the nausea after I spewed my stomach contents.

T:01:00 About an hour into my experiment I was sitting on the couch, no longer feeling the warm euphoria of the heroin. The euphoria had vanished. I become cold rather quickly, forcing me to put on a sweatshirt and sweatpants. I still feel a little dizzy and there is a small pressure in my head. My stomach is starting to get upset so I run back to the bathroom to vomit again.

T:01:10 Here is where I decide to end the experiment because I was tired and was not in the mood to get sick another time. I feel that my combination was tested but not under the best conditions. I feel that if I wasn't hungover from the previous night I may have had an easier time holding down my stomach. As I lay in bed, I felt a little uncomfortable at first but I slowly relaxed and was able to sleep.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 105612
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 18 
Published: Dec 9, 2015Views: 7,508
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