Facing Psychedelic Terror
4-HO-MET & 5-MeO-DMT
by fearitself
Citation:   fearitself. "Facing Psychedelic Terror: An Experience with 4-HO-MET & 5-MeO-DMT (exp105357)". Erowid.org. Aug 25, 2017. erowid.org/exp/105357

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
25 mg oral 4-HO-MET (powder / crystals)
  T+ 5:00 16 mg insufflated 5-MeO-DMT (powder / crystals)

BODY WEIGHT: 80 kg


Trip Report 5-MeO-DMT

Title: Facing Psychedelic Terror

Quantities taken:

Person 1: Male (M1), 75 kg
T-6 hours, about 10 beers
T-5 hours, 25mg 4-HO-MET
T, about 16mg 5-MeO-DMT

Person 2: Male (M2) 80 kg
T-5 hours, 25 mg 4-HO-MET
T, about 16mg 5-MeO-DMT

Person 3: Female (F1) 65 kg
T-6 hours: some alcohol
T-2 hours: 10 mg 4-HO-MET
T, about 16 mg 5-MeO-DMT.

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The night started when two of us met up at my friendís (M1) place for some Friday night drinks, although I (M2) had brought my box of tryptamines with me in case we would feel like tripping later. My friend had already had had quite some after-work beers, but nevertheless we decided on taking some 4-HO-MET, and overall had a very enjoyable trip.

Sometime after midnight my friendís girlfriend (F1) came home from a night out, and found us in a very good mood. She also decided to join in, so I gave her some 4-HO-MET as well, but she didnít notice any effect even after two hours. Considering whether we should take some other substance or just call it a night, eventually we landed on 5-MeO-DMT as a reasonable choice for this hour, given that it promises a relatively short trip.

After consulting dose charts, which suggests for insufflated 5-meo-dmt a range of 8-15mg for a common trip and 10-25mg for a strong trip, we decided to take somewhere between 10 and 15mg. Given the tolerance from the earlier 4-ho-met and our experience with psychedelics we did not expect too many problems with such a dose. I put some powder on my scale and it read out 47mg. So we stupidly decided that about 15mg each would be a strong but fun trip.

We divided the 47mg in three lines (without weighing every individual dose), and snorted a line each. Then we moved towards the couch. I remember my friend accidentally kicking over some tea, his girlfriend starting to clean up and me trying to get up to help, but quickly realizing that the trip was already getting too intense and I just had to lean back. Basically within one minute the drug started kicking in.

I have no recollection of the next 20-30 minutes. Apparently I was walking around, shouting gibberish, falling on the floor, getting up again, speaking in tongues, etc. My friendís girlfriend had already gone to lie on her bed to try to deal with the intensity of the trip (we have no clue what my friend was up to in this part of the trip), when she heard a loud crash and decided to check on me, finding me on the floor almost passing out, barely responding to her calling out my name.
she heard a loud crash and decided to check on me, finding me on the floor almost passing out, barely responding to her calling out my name.
Still somehow she managed to bring me over to the bed.

My first memory of the trip is all three of us lying in bed, tripping our balls of a factor 10x of anything Iíve experience before. Completely taken over by the drug, lost all control, in some ways completely orgasmic, but at the same time seemingly reduced to brain stem functioning only, and so completely overwhelming that it cannot be described.

At some point my friend managed to snap a little bit out of it, regained some control and said something along the lines of ďGuys! GUYS! Weíve gone completely insane. Weíve really fucked up this time. This is completely fucked upĒ. At this point the trip started to go bad quickly.

My friendís girlfriend got stuck on the thought of us having gone completely insane, never recovering, the rest of our lives stuck living as insane brain-fried plants. This panic bred on itself, becoming ever more consuming, until she started to slowly pass out. To us however it seemed like she had given up clinging to life and was dying. We tried to shout at her to come back to no avail. Tried to call 911 but didnít manage to operate a phone yet. For a couple of minutes we were convinced she had died, all three of us going through our own version of the biggest fear any of us ever faced. Whether facing complete total psychedelic terror, loosing oneís girlfriend, being convinced that one was responsible for feeding the powder that killed their best friendís girlfriend.

At some point however she did come back. And then started screaming. A two minute long uninterrupted mega-intense scream at the top of her lungs. When she was done she finally started to come down.

Meanwhile there was blood and vomit through the bed and apartment. None of us have a clue how, when or from whom that came. All three of us or missing large parts of the trip from our memoryís and have only been able to piece the trip back together in bits and pieces.

Needless to say we do not recommend this drug to anyone except those that would like to be faced with total terror, or (perhaps) in a very, very prepared setting and mindstate. And please divide the dose chart doses by at least a factor two.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 105357
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 30 
Published: Aug 25, 2017Views: 7,044
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