Stunning Huichol Yarn Art
Donate $150 or more and get a beautiful Huichol yarn
painting, hand made by Huichol artists in Mexico.
They make fabulous gifts! (6, 8, 12 & 24 inch pieces available.)
4-FUN
4-Fluoroamphetamine
Citation:   Michael_H. "4-FUN: An Experience with 4-Fluoroamphetamine (exp104764)". Erowid.org. Jul 17, 2017. erowid.org/exp/104764

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
  oral 4-Fluoroamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 3:40   insufflated 4-Fluoroamphetamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 6:00 1 hit smoked Nicotine (liquid)
  T+ 6:30   insufflated 4-Fluoroamphetamine (powder / crystals)
BODY WEIGHT: 160 lb
This is my 4-fa story. I've done 4-fa a few times before this. I have experiences with many substances including DMT, 2C-B, and pure Psilocin. I've also tried Methylone, Ethylone, and Butylone. I don't suggest anyone to eyeball anything, I got lucky.

9:50AM - Just woke up starting on an empty stomach, I'm guessing my dose was around ~250mg I eyeballed it

10:00AM - Already feel it, could be placebo

10:20AM - Coming up, nicotine is desired by my mind. but this feels like one of those experiences where I won't really need it

10:50AM - Euphoria is pretty nice, this was a lot better feeling than insufflated dose earlier in the week. the dose and ROA change made a huge difference compared to my experiment from 3 days ago feeling a lot of serotonin action

11:10AM - Peak has been reached enjoyed it pretty nicely. Don't want it to end

11:30AM - I think I've reached the top here

11:50AM - Music is pleasurable to listen to. I am in a state of mild anhedonia, but this is typical when I get onto stims. The euphoria and boredom come in waves. One after the other. A huge wave of euphoria, and love. Then another of frustration, boredom and despair. Am I coming down? Probably not. My mind is already sad and preparing for what hasn't happened yet. My mind is depressed and I have a wonderful body high, but deep down inside I know that the come down is right around the corner and because of that I fear for the future. Dreading the comedown, loving the present moment.

1:20PM - The strong entactogenic and euphoric effects fade. I am left with disappointment. The inevitable come down has started. This is my experience with euphoric stims, generally it's a countdown or an awareness that it won't last, and that thought saddens me. It's like a count down that you don't want to count down. If you have ever dreaded some point in the future (Job interview, Work, school) you know what I mean... and you want it to come slower, it actually comes faster. I usually am rushing to try to do as many things as possible that would be more pleasurable than usual, while on stims, before the peak ends. This includes listening to music, looking at a visualizer or tactile things like bathing. Anything that would stimulate your senses really. This is how my come downs are, they are always me dreading that point in the future where I hit rick bottom. After the serotonin is gone, this is the down side to messing with the contents of your brain.

1:30PM - Redose; snort the rest guessing it's around ~125mg

1:50PM - I can feel the redose working. Some people say that this is the most painful substance to snort, and that it hurts worse than meth or even 2C-X I remember having difficulty snorting 4-FA last year but now it was fairly easy, it did sort of feel painful but I think I like that pain. I'm a masochist when it comes to snorting. I guess if this is the most painful thing to snort then I can probably handle putting just about anything up my nose.

2:10PM - Listening to some music now. the euphoria has returned slightly. Mellow chill music is really nice, feeling meditative

2:50PM - I feel really good now, I'm not sure what happened to make this different from last time but this is a lot more enjoyable. I have no headache and very little unpleasant side effects. Euphoria to stimulation ratio is perfect. Plenty of stoning euphoria, just a little energetic little stimulation. A nice plateau for the experience I would guess.

3:10PM - 4-FA isn't as fun as it used to be for me, I think maybe a year ago I had more pronounced euphoria and music appreciation. It was still a good experience, nonetheless, It's just not performing like the wonderful gem I first thought it to be. Maybe I need a higher purity or maybe I drained all of my serotonin over the last year. Oh well, it is what it is. I have not achieved desired effects, this was not as warm and glowing, as my first time. I wonder if 4-FA will ever work for me like that again? Perhaps I need to take something closer to 500mg

3:20PM - The craving for nicotine right now is pretty intense. This is normal for me when I start to feel like I'm coming down. I experience the desire or compulsion to bring myself back up with other substances. I've done this successfully with ecstasy. Just going to ignore the craving since I don't have anything. The dopamine feels so satisfactory, please enter the synapse! I'm someone who is trying to quit addictions and live a healthy care free life. stimulants are extremely troublesome, for this. I find myself feeling very moarish under the influence of stimulants. I just feel like I want to redose, with something. That state of mind is filled with anxiety.

3:50PM - I took a hit of organic eliquid left overs in one of my ecigs. Very little vapor came out but I still felt pretty good... This is where I turn into a scavenger, looking for something, anything to take my mind off of the inevitable come down. I want some more now

4:20PM - I snort all of the rest of the 4-FA it wasn't very much. I didn't want to waste any. I feel calm listening to some good music. I don't think I will feel what I just snorted. Looks like this experience is coming to an end.

4:50PM - I'm pulling 4-fa out of my nose! this was a smooth and pleasurable experience, it was not as euphoric and fun as I had remembered it being, but it was a lot better than my trial earlier this week. No headache and terrible feelings. I wonder if it is possible to loose the 'magic' with this like with MDMA? It certainly doesn't feel as magical as my first time.

5:00PM - Dehydration throughout the entire experience, leading up to now. I am thirsty. Should probably eat too

5:15PM - Mild come down, not as bad as last time. I wonder if oral ROA leads to less of a moarish feeling. I feel really good at this point, come down felt way better than I thought it would be. I probably took around a half gram total. Scales are a must. I'll never know exactly how much I took. I feel like I could go for a higher dose.

5:40PM - I guess I see why they call it 'speed' now, amphetamines really do speed up time. Time flies, Lingering stimulation continues, like a strong caffeine buzz at this point.

7:10PM - It's finished now. the cravings were strong, I survived

Be careful and safe people!

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 104764
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 21
Published: Jul 17, 2017Views: 2,845
[ View PDF (to print) ] [ View LaTeX (for geeks) ] [ Swap Dark/Light ]
4-Fluoroamphetamine (276) : General (1), Loss of Magic (34), Alone (16)

COPYRIGHTS: All reports copyright Erowid.
No AI Training use allowed without written permission.
TERMS OF USE: By accessing this page, you agree not to download, analyze, distill, reuse, digest, or feed into any AI-type system the report data without first contacting Erowid Center and receiving written permission.

Experience Reports are the writings and opinions of the authors who submit them. Some of the activities described are dangerous and/or illegal and none are recommended by Erowid Center.


Experience Vaults Index Full List of Substances Search Submit Report User Settings About Main Psychoactive Vaults