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Unexpected Potentiation
Noopept & 4-Fluoroamphetamine
by MrGecko
Citation:   MrGecko. "Unexpected Potentiation: An Experience with Noopept & 4-Fluoroamphetamine (exp104752)". Erowid.org. Nov 7, 2015. erowid.org/exp/104752

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
20 mg sublingual Noopept  
  T+ 2:30 150 mg oral 4-Fluoroamphetamine (capsule)
  T+ 7:00 50 mg oral 4-Fluoroamphetamine (capsule)

BODY WEIGHT: 74 kg


T+ 0:00 - I took 20mg noopept before heading out sublingual
T+ 2:30 - Took 150mg 4-fa
T+ 3:00 - Massive side effects, cramping, head aches, tearing unable to move
T+ 4:00 - Side effects subside and regular stimulation sets in
T+ 7:00 - Dropped 50mg 4-fa booster with no unexpected side effects

I want to keep this brief in case anyone is doing research on combining fluoroamphetamine and noopept/racetams:

Party night and heading about to head out.
Took 20mg noopept sublingual as it helps with alcohol-induced stupidity and has proven itself to be a good in these situations.

I also prepared 150mg of 4-Fa + a 50mg booster - both capped in a gelatin pill.

Dropping the 4-fa about 2.5 hours later was followed with the usual come-up after 30 min.

Then things went south:

A stinging pain in my brain/head followed by a feeling like my brain is cramping.
In short I was in pain feeling like my brain is getting overloaded.
My eyes started to tear, random yawning and an incredibly tense bodyload felt in every muscle followed.
Luckily I could sit/lie in a chair trying to hold it together and not draw too much attention to myself.
I had some earplugs with me that helped me concentrate and endure the situation I have found myself in.

After about an hour I felt reasonably fine again and 3 hours later dropping the 50mg booster was causing no issues either.

I had dropped 4-fa multiple times before, same dosage and a friend who was accompanying me had no issues himself so I am sure the noopept played a factor here.

Some months later I noticed the same potentiation effect with noopept+2-FA however due to the much lower dosage with no ill side effects.

I caution everyone to reduce their dosage accordingly and do a test run if planning to combine those substances. In my experience the potentiation is definitely there and can be quite overwhelming. I assume similiar issues could happen when combining MDMA with noopept, confirmed by some experience reports I have read, talking about piracetam potentiating MDMA.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 104752
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 28 
Published: Nov 7, 2015Views: 10,961
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