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I’d Like to Avoid the Depressive Effects
Kratom, Coffee, Chocolate & L-Theanine
by Anonymous
Citation:   Anonymous. "I’d Like to Avoid the Depressive Effects: An Experience with Kratom, Coffee, Chocolate & L-Theanine (exp102728)". Erowid.org. Jun 3, 2020. erowid.org/exp/102728

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
2.8 g oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 0:00 2 - 3 Tbsp oral Chocolate (ground / crushed)
  T+ 0:00 2 cups oral Coffee (liquid)
  T+ 0:00 200 mg oral Theanine (liquid)
  T+ 1:15 2.7 g oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 1:15 2 - 3 Tbsp oral Chocolate (ground / crushed)
  T+ 2:30 12.5 mg oral Ephedrine  

BODY WEIGHT: 185 lb


Interesting Experience

I decided to decided to try Kratom after knowing about it for several years. I'd read about it and decided that, being intrigued and slightly bored, it might be interesting to see what it is like. I ordered an ounce of powdered premium Bali kratom from an online vendor. The day it arrived I had work in the late afternoon and against my better judgment, I decided to try it anyway. I resolved to try a small dose and then another if I felt the effects were manageable. I prepared a mixture of liquid coffee, powdered hot chocolate, and 2.8 grams of powdered Kratom (I measured using a scale) and approximately 200 mg of powdered L-theanine (I am accustomed to adding this to my coffee) and after mixing it up I drank it down over the course of 15 minutes or so.

The taste of the Kratom was barely noticeable with cocoa, coffee and sugar, but I could taste it a little bit. It was a bit bitter and herbal-y but very much negligible. Although I had previously drank one cup of coffee shortly before, I definitely started to notice a slight difference in my mind and body. It was a slight buzz, definitely distinct from the caffeine. I would say I first noticed it as soon as 7 to 10 minutes after the first drinking it. I should mention I did not have a lot on my stomach, but I did just finish eating a light lunch of 3 eggs and some fruit. About 20 to 30 minutes in, I definitely could feel the effects. Honestly, it was a good feeling. I felt very awake and a little speedy. My mood was much more lifted than it already was.

I had to go to work, but I still wanted to continue my experiment – again against my better judgment—so I prepared another mixture of cocoa and 2.7 of kratom in a small bag and went to work. I was curious to see how interacting with other people would be like. I walked to work.

At work I felt great although I did notice that I felt a bit hot temperature-wise. My mood was still very much lifted, and I felt very talkative and amused.
I felt a bit hot temperature-wise. My mood was still very much lifted, and I felt very talkative and amused.
After being at work for about 20 minutes (about an hour and 15 minutes since ingestion), I decided to drink the second dose hoping the stimulatory effects would continue and not the sedative part. I mixed the preparation in hot water and drank the mixture over the course of ten minutes or so. After about 20 to 30 minutes, I noticed a depressive effect setting. I also felt my vision was being affected a little bit –like I was getting tunnel vision or toon vision. It might have been very unnoticeable if I were not consciously looking for the effects. I checked my pupils for miosis, but they appeared normal. I started to feel a bit tired, slight nausea and developed a slight headache (I’m guessing my blood pressure was dropping?). I also felt itchy later in the early evening, especially on my face and around my neck. I was not effectively impaired, but I did feel tired. After about an hour of that feeling, I decided that I would try some ephedrine to pep me back up. I took 12.5 mg of ephedrine (it also had guaifenesin in it, 200 mg) about 3 or 4 so hours into the experiment. Within 20 minutes or so, my headache was gone, and I felt better, “normal”. I'm guessing this is because the ephedrine brought my blood pressure back up. I had two beers later that night after work, and I had no trouble sleeping that night, and the next day I felt great.

In conclusion: overall I would say this was a positive experience. As this was my first time, I can’t say how the experience will repeat itself. I’d like to avoid the depressive effects of kratom when I do it again, so I might just stick to the lower doses for that. The stimulatory effects were very welcome for me.



Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 102728
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 27 
Published: Jun 3, 2020Views: 819
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