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Goldie Locks Principle - IBS Pain
Kratom (ground leaf), Sertraline, Gabapentin & Clonazepam
by opiophile
Citation:   opiophile. "Goldie Locks Principle - IBS Pain: An Experience with Kratom (ground leaf), Sertraline, Gabapentin & Clonazepam (exp100090)". Erowid.org. Mar 31, 2015. erowid.org/exp/100090

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
200 mg oral Pharms - Sertraline (daily)
  T+ 0:00 .5 mg oral Pharms - Clonazepam  
  T+ 0:00 4 g oral Kratom (tea)
  T+ 1:25 5 g oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 2:30 2 mg sublingual Pharms - Clonazepam  

BODY WEIGHT: 160 lb


After reading TONS of reviews, articles and anything else I could find on kratom, I decided to try it for my stomach pain. I was diagnosed with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, Generalized Anxiety, and Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

My current psychiatrist has been able to control my OCD and anxiety very well with clonazepam, and the hope was the anxiety was causing a lot of the pain but this was not the case. So now I have no anxiety but moderate to severe stomach pain.

I tried a few extracts that claimed to be anywhere from 8x to 50x, resins and powdered as well as crushed leaf. I had probably used kratom about a dozen times before this with very mixed results. Some made me feel great for a few hours with energy and a great mood/border line euphoria, to getting really tired, to being so wired my hands shook. As well as ABNORMALLY excruciating stomach pains. Sometimes I'd get diarrhea, sometimes constipation.

I found one extract isolate that was in stock for about 2 weeks that was GREAT, but since I can't get that anymore I wanted to find out as much as I can about what works with just pure plant material.

So I got my hands on 3 types of kratom, Bali, Malaysian, and Indonesian (which was 'micro powdered' as they put it, I don't see why that matters).

My normal prescription of 200mg zoloft for ocd, 1mg klonopin 4x daily as needed, neurontin 100mg 3x day as needed.

On this day I took my zoloft, and half a klonopin when I woke up at around 11am so I wouldn't get any negative effects from not taking any, but also I wanted to take as little as possible so I could judge the experience accurately.

[Reported dose: '2 grams Indonesian plus 2 grams malaysian 5 grams bali']

T-4:00pm Boil 2 cups Water to start preparing the tea, I just add in the kratom, turn on the stove to medium and then once it's close to boiling I get it boiling pretty well but make sure it doesn't overflow and let it go like that until about half has evaporated and I'm left with about 1 cup. After I dilute it and add some sugar, quite a bit of cinnamon (sounds strange but makes it taste waaay better even by itself), brown sugar and 1/4 tsp of vinegar. Which I don't taste but heard acidity can facilitate alkaloid extraction and figured it couldn't hurt.

T-4:30pm Finally ready to drink my tea, I have about 16 oz of liquid and I sip on it for about 20 mins, and start to feel it a little, just a slight mood elevation and the ability to concentrate on something for long periods.

T-5:15pm I think this dose has reached its peak, so I try to figure out what to take next. I'm still feeling decent but nothing like that extract isolate I was talking about. That's the only thing that put me on another level.

T-5:25pm I'm definitely not satisfied with the experience so I decide to 'toss and wash' 5 grams of bali, which was unpleasant to say the least. It's powdered so finely that it like sticks together and like coagulates or something and is hard to get down.

T-5:45pm It was sure worth it though, I would say I'm experiencing a full kratom high, great euphoria, energy, pain relief (no stomach pain at all) concentration, etc.

T-6:30pm I still feel good, but feel like my high is slightly fading, so I put 2mg of klonopin under my tongue and 100mg of my prescribed neurontin. I was very curious to see how this would react.

T-6:40pm Wow. I've done 11 grams of Indo before and not been near this high. I'm starting to nod out, like heroin almost (which I have experience with). I can fight the nods but I'm feelin' great and just chill, put on some music and went into a fury on Google and spent the next probably 2 hours reading and researching things, feeling great. Occasionally coming back from a nod.

T-8:30pm I nodded out so hard my head hit my cup with the little bit of tea I made earlier and it flew and spilled what was left. So I figured it was bed time lol.
T-8:30pm I nodded out so hard my head hit my cup with the little bit of tea I made earlier and it flew and spilled what was left. So I figured it was bed time lol.


T-8:32pm Sleeping Peacefully. I woke up feeling it a little still in a good way, just calm and creative.

I find the difference between 2 grams and 4 grams is waaay different than the difference between 8 grams to 10 grams. There's kind of a happy medium where if I take less I am kind of not satisfied, but take too much and get nausea and the jitters.

So it takes some experimenting. SO far, I would rate them as Bali as number one, then a slightly distant 2nd is Malaysian and 3rd was micro powder Indo. It was on clearance and really cheap, I wonder if there was a quality problem.

Bottom line, I got the most out of Bali, or Isolate extracts, preferably full spectrum. There is a happy medium on how much to take and don't forget each batch of kratom is different so test your new shipment. Also here is IMO a GREAT recipe for kratom. I love it.

~1. Make it so you have about 1 cup to 1 1/2 cups of the kratom tea, add water until it's at about 18 ounces (if you have a cup that big, if not most people have 16 oz, just fill close to the top.)

2.Add 1/3 cup sugar (slightly more or less depending on taste, I think my recipe makes it more on the sweet side) and stir

3.Add approx, 1/4 tsp. vinegar, and 1/4 tsp. cinnamon. I'm guessing on the cinnamon, I just use my shaker and shake it 2 or 3 times so that's another option.

4. 1/4 - 1/3 cup brown sugar. It is not as sweet as regular sugar but the combination of all the flavors with the kratom flavor is amazing! It's delicious to me and I would make it just to drink lol.

Kratom has helped me deal with my stomach when opiates weren't an option and NSAID's are too hard on your stomach so I am eternally grateful for this wonderful herb... Shouldn't have to say this but:
It's a tool like anything else and CAN be misused. If you respect this plant it will bring you many benefits.

Peace&Love

Exp Year: 2013ExpID: 100090
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 27 
Published: Mar 31, 2015Views: 4,298
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