Erowid - Honest Global Drug Information
We're an educational non-profit working to provide a balanced, honest look at
psychoactive drugs and drug use--to reduce harms, improve benefits, & support
reasonable policies. This work is made possible by $10, $50, & $100 donations.
5-HTP Used in Recovery from 2C-D
5-HTP & 2C-D
Citation:   Barium. "5-HTP Used in Recovery from 2C-D: An Experience with 5-HTP & 2C-D (exp4241)". Erowid.org. Apr 8, 2001. erowid.org/exp/4241

author logo  
DOSE:
100 mg oral Tryptophan - 5-HTP
BODY WEIGHT: 67 kg
Decided to do some 5-HTP recovery a few months ago, four days after taking 65 mg 2C-D. Big mistake.

Surprise #1: Wake up 2 hours after taking 5-HTP, to find that I have beautiful closed-eye visuals. Apparently, 2C-D takes a long time to get out of my system. Something I'd already gotten hints of on my first session with 50 mg. Enjoy visuals for a minute, go back to sleep. Everything OK.

At 2pm next day, when I'm awake for four hours: suddenly find out that things are `weird'. Words don't make sense. The things that they represent are `normal', it's just the words that are weird. `Yellow' is a perfectly normal color, but a strange word. Communication with others is normal; maybe a bit more sparkling. Behaviour is normal. Odd feelings go away after about 2 hours, only to resurface about 6-7 hours later, for the same period. Overall, feels very much like Shulgin described it in Pihkal's part 1, `fugue state'.

Sad insight: when doing some cleaning up, I notice that I behave like a very complicated automaton; I'm just reacting to external stimuli. Rationalization of my actions lags behind half a second. Free will is a joke.

Next day, same regime, only a bit more intense. Am glad that so much of my behavior is automated. Have small anxiety attacks centered about the thought `what happens if I have to do something which isn't automated', `what should I do if people notice?' and `would I recognize it in time if I do something incredibly stupid, or which could get myself injured?' Feels like insanity. Insanity is strange.

Funny thing is, memory works OK. I did remember my PIN correctly for a bank account that I hadn't used in five years to withdraw money from it. Remembering shopping lists (short term memory) wasn't a problem either.

After a few days, things slowly bounced back to the normal, thank goodness. Five days later, I was `the old me' again. I regard this experience with mixed feelings: in some aspects, it was absolutely terrifying. OTOH, I have more respect for people who have to live in this condition forever.

Another note: On the second day of this experience, I could suppress the `oddness' and accompanying anxiety by taking two vodka's; on the third day, the comforting effect of alcohol was substantially less.

So this is one for the pharmalogical guru's out there: It seems to me that 2C-D does something on the re-uptake side, for a loooong time. Any suggestions?

Exp Year: 2000ExpID: 4241
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given
Published: Apr 8, 2001Views: 38,132
[ View PDF (to print) ] [ View LaTeX (for geeks) ] [ Swap Dark/Light ]
2C-D (103), Tryptophan (138) : Various (28), Multi-Day Experience (13), Difficult Experiences (5)

COPYRIGHTS: All reports copyright Erowid.
No AI Training use allowed without written permission.
TERMS OF USE: By accessing this page, you agree not to download, analyze, distill, reuse, digest, or feed into any AI-type system the report data without first contacting Erowid Center and receiving written permission.

Experience Reports are the writings and opinions of the authors who submit them. Some of the activities described are dangerous and/or illegal and none are recommended by Erowid Center.


Experience Vaults Index Full List of Substances Search Submit Report User Settings About Main Psychoactive Vaults